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18-07-2012, 10:07 AM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: West Sussex
Boat make: Phantom 21/Four Winns 205/Cougar cub
Engines: Merc 300xs / 5L V8 270hp/30hp Yam
Cruising area: Solent / Stockholm
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Location: West Sussex
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Cheers Paul,
So how does it work then? Is like a heat shrink or something?
What are the benefits over paint, does it leave a stronger more resilient surface than paint?
Is it easier in terms of re doing it after a few years if necessary?
Cheers
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18-07-2012, 10:24 AM
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Country: Guernsey
Occupation: Postie
Interests: Heavy Heavy Metal
Boat name: Slayer II, Slayer, Pen15
Boat make: Phantom 19G-R, Bernico F2 Extreme, Ring 15
Engines: Evinrude 115HO, Yam 90
Cruising area: Channel Islands
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,460
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Originally Posted by ELK
Cheers Paul,
So how does it work then? Is like a heat shrink or something?
What are the benefits over paint, does it leave a stronger more resilient surface than paint?
Is it easier in terms of re doing it after a few years if necessary?
Cheers
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It's a special cast highly flexible adhesive vinyl, there's loads of tricks that go into applying it seamlessly, but yeah heat it is a big part.
It won't chip like paint, but it will mark and scuff if you abuse it, but then again so does gel. The obvious benefit is you can have any design/graphic job printed and laminated onto the wrap itself. As long as you're careful with it and use fender socks etc it'll look great for many years. If you do scratch or scuff it badly then a skilled sign writer should be able to remove the damaged piece and let in a new one. There'll be a join of course but barely noticeable if done right. As I've been rigging my boat I must've climbed and slid over the gunwales hundreds of times, but it's still absolutely perfect.
If the surface underneath is sound then it's just a case of peeling it off with heat, removing the glue residue and reapplying the new vinyl. Problems come where like mine the adhesive pulled off tiny pieces of the paint underneath the original wrap, but then again my boat has no gel just primer on top of the glass.
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18-07-2012, 10:41 AM
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#43
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: West Sussex
Boat make: Phantom 21/Four Winns 205/Cougar cub
Engines: Merc 300xs / 5L V8 270hp/30hp Yam
Cruising area: Solent / Stockholm
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Location: West Sussex
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Sounds good,
Cheers for info Paul.
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18-07-2012, 11:57 AM
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Senior Member
Country: UK
Location: Devon
Occupation: Garage Proprietor
Interests: PowerBoat Racing
Boat name: If Only
Boat make: Bernico F3 OCR, Bernico Prototype Inboard, and some Ribs
Engines: Yamaha Pro V 115
Cruising area: UK, France
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Devon
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Paint works for me although you do need to be careful with it !!
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18-07-2012, 07:45 PM
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Registered User
Country: Guernsey
Occupation: Engineering
Boat make: None, boo!
Engines: Turbines mainly!
Cruising area: The inside of my workshop!
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Shit the bed Bob, is that a full show carbon Bernico??!! That looks absolutely amazing, please tell me that you're bringing it to sunny Guernsey for me to dribble on? 
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18-07-2012, 07:51 PM
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Worth noting he'd run out of petrol at the time and you were doing a "Team America" to give him a tow home.....
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My personal fave pic of my 28 is one that Chaos took, and accidentally got right...
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18-07-2012, 09:31 PM
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Boat make: Phantom 23
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Shit the bed Bob, is that a full show carbon Bernico??!! That looks absolutely amazing, please tell me that you're bringing it to sunny Guernsey for me to dribble on? |
Better get the tissues ready, the pictures really dont do it justice!!!
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18-07-2012, 10:04 PM
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#48
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Senior Member
Country: UK
Location: Devon
Occupation: Garage Proprietor
Interests: PowerBoat Racing
Boat name: If Only
Boat make: Bernico F3 OCR, Bernico Prototype Inboard, and some Ribs
Engines: Yamaha Pro V 115
Cruising area: UK, France
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Devon
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Shit the bed Bob, is that a full show carbon Bernico??!! That looks absolutely amazing, please tell me that you're bringing it to sunny Guernsey for me to dribble on? |
I might !!
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18-07-2012, 11:07 PM
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Country: UK/Thailand
Location: London/Bangkok
Boat make: Phantom 21
Engines: Mercury 260
Cruising area: South Coast UK/Thailand
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: London/Bangkok
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Originally Posted by ELK
Great idea, I'd love to go black on a boat, any ideas of cost for this process, again say 21-23 feet? And anyone around south coast that could do it?
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bacck to the question "does anyone know of someone in the south east, west sussex, surrey or london, who ca do it"?
asked around london at sign shops and all say they never done it before and would know what to charge?
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18-07-2012, 11:13 PM
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Senior Member
Country: UK
Location: Devon
Occupation: Garage Proprietor
Interests: PowerBoat Racing
Boat name: If Only
Boat make: Bernico F3 OCR, Bernico Prototype Inboard, and some Ribs
Engines: Yamaha Pro V 115
Cruising area: UK, France
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Devon
Posts: 3,095
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We can do either paint or wrap but in Devon !!
Bob
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18-07-2012, 11:16 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK/Thailand
Location: London/Bangkok
Boat make: Phantom 21
Engines: Mercury 260
Cruising area: South Coast UK/Thailand
Join Date: Jun 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OCRDA
We can do either paint or wrap but in Devon !!
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can do devon.
pm me your details and i will give you a call tomorrow.
Thanks
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30-07-2012, 07:52 AM
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Registered User
Country: england
Location: southampton
Occupation: engineer
Interests: lots
Boat make: scorpion 8.1
Engines: 250HO
Cruising area: solent
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: southampton
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Can they' wrap the running surface??
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30-07-2012, 10:46 AM
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#53
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Registered User
Country: Guernsey
Occupation: Postie
Interests: Heavy Heavy Metal
Boat name: Slayer II, Slayer, Pen15
Boat make: Phantom 19G-R, Bernico F2 Extreme, Ring 15
Engines: Evinrude 115HO, Yam 90
Cruising area: Channel Islands
Join Date: Aug 2009
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It could be done, don't know how long it would last though as water pressure is pretty brutal!
I had mine painted, and ran the paint up about 2" above the chines. The wrap overlaps that my about 1.5", and the edge is going to get a 2" strip of extremely strong hard wearing clear vinyl to try and stop water getting under the edge and peeling it
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30-07-2012, 05:55 PM
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#54
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Registered User
Location: Sarisbury Green
Occupation: Electrician
Interests: Racing
Boat make: Ring 34
Engines: Mercruisers
Cruising area: Solent
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Sarisbury Green
Posts: 415
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Had my fletcher done by a guy in southampton, all the red and the chequered flag part and the white are on piece, he printed all the colours on vinyl and stunk it on the boat it looked amazing.
Contact details: James @ Camfree signs: 07809650229
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30-07-2012, 11:47 PM
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Too many projects.....
Country: UK
Location: Warsash
Occupation: Sunseeker Sales @ Swanwick
Interests: Making things go fast....
Boat name: Top Gun
Boat make: Sunseeker Hawk 27
Engines: 2x Volvo Penta 5.7 V8s
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Warsash
Posts: 221
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Speak to Ben @ Wild Boat Wraps, Based in Hamble.
023 8045 4040
They will sort you out, do all our boats.
James
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