Russ Williams P21 Moulds

pcm · 26-05-2012, 08:35 AM

As most of you know, Russ owns the rights to build P21's from the original SB tooling. After 20mths he still has no access to the property that is rightfully his.The moulds are currentely in a barn in hythe and being held back by Martin Vezzey of Hydromax Powerboats, how many excuses are there for not handing them over, this guy could write a book, i heard some of them myself and the B/S is off the scale.
I feel that everyone should get behind Russ and harrass this lying F***ER before this iconic sportsboat is lost forever.
Most on here are Phantom mad, would you like it if you were in this position, probably not ,so i am going to put Vezzey's phone number at the bottom of this post, ring him , text him, abuse him whatever, i personally would of kicked the crap out of him if i was in Russ's position, but russell wants to do this properly and he needs your help .

GIVE THE MAN A HAND

LYING ASSHOLE 07876703385

Many Thanks Pete

deepvee · 26-05-2012, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by pcm

As most of you know, Russ owns the rights to build P21's from the original SB tooling. After 20mths he still has no access to the property that is rightfully his.The moulds are currentely in a barn in hythe and being held back by Martin Vezzey of Hydromax Powerboats, how many excuses are there for not handing them over, this guy could write a book, i heard some of them myself and the B/S is off the scale.
I feel that everyone should get behind Russ and harrass this lying F***ER before this iconic sportsboat is lost forever.
Most on here are Phantom mad, would you like it if you were in this position, probably not ,so i am going to put Vezzey's phone number at the bottom of this post, ring him , text him, abuse him whatever, i personally would of kicked the crap out of him if i was in Russ's position, but russell wants to do this properly and he needs your help .

GIVE THE MAN A HAND

LYING ASSHOLE 07876703385

Many Thanks Pete

get round there with a few herbets and a truck and get them back

EHolman · 26-05-2012, 06:42 PM

Say it how it is pete lol.

I tried to find you a copy of hot boat, but no where in Kissimmee sold it, typical.

I'll give you a buzz tomorrow.

Elliott

Marinautic · 26-05-2012, 08:01 PM

Hotboat ceased trading a few years ago.

russ williams · 27-05-2012, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by pcm

As most of you know, Russ owns the rights to build P21's from the original SB tooling. After 20mths he still has no access to the property that is rightfully his.The moulds are currentely in a barn in hythe and being held back by Martin Vezzey of Hydromax Powerboats, how many excuses are there for not handing them over, this guy could write a book, i heard some of them myself and the B/S is off the scale.
I feel that everyone should get behind Russ and harrass this lying F***ER before this iconic sportsboat is lost forever.
Most on here are Phantom mad, would you like it if you were in this position, probably not ,so i am going to put Vezzey's phone number at the bottom of this post, ring him , text him, abuse him whatever, i personally would of kicked the crap out of him if i was in Russ's position, but russell wants to do this properly and he needs
GIVE THE MAN A HAND

LYING ASSHOLE 07876703385

Many Thanks Pete

Thanks for your surpport Pete just hope he doesn't dig his heels in even more,mined you I think his heels are already rooted in china mate

den · 27-05-2012, 01:44 PM

If he has your money its baseball bat time!!!!!!!!!!!

pcm · 28-05-2012, 03:34 PM

apparentely they are being delivered tonight. Likelyhood of this happening, zero, more excuses and more lies

boatnut · 30-05-2012, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by pcm

apparentely they are being delivered tonight. Likelyhood of this happening, zero, more excuses and more lies

any joy ?

glen76 · 30-05-2012, 09:02 PM

I find it strange, that man in question leaves tooling for his ribs, outside workshop.... Shame it aint the phantom so you could collect

russ williams · 02-06-2012, 06:24 PM

The only way I can get my way around the crap deal I have been left with . Martyn Vezey has done my head in with more bull shit That any one can deal with 22 mounths of it , I will now need to splash ,really do not want to do this , but I have payed for the right to build and payed for the moulds hope no one thinks bad of me but but where do I go , given him all the time in the world to do the right thing ,the man is from another planet for sure.sorry if this is hard to read had a beer or two would like to know if I will be look on badly

Russ

TWIN RIG · 02-06-2012, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by russ williams

The only way I can get my way around the crap deal I have been left with . Martyn Vezey has done my head in with more bull shit That any one can deal with 22 mounths of it , I will now need to splash ,really do not want to do this , but I have payed for the right to build and payed for the moulds hope no one thinks bad of me but but where do I go , given him all the time in the world to do the right thing ,the man is from another planet for sure.sorry if this is hard to read had a beer or two would like to know if I will be look on badly

Russ

No offence but why don't you grow some balls and go and get your property back ?

maz928 · 02-06-2012, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by russ williams

The only way I can get my way around the crap deal I have been left with . Martyn Vezey has done my head in with more bull shit That any one can deal with 22 mounths of it , I will now need to splash ,really do not want to do this , but I have payed for the right to build and payed for the moulds hope no one thinks bad of me but but where do I go , given him all the time in the world to do the right thing ,the man is from another planet for sure.sorry if this is hard to read had a beer or two would like to know if I will be look on badly

Russ

Hi Russ

I personally would'nt do a splash on the p21 as it will always be known as a splash no matter how good I'm sure you will make it.

I would go through the small claims court route which is for claims up to 5k and is very quick and easy to use.If he does'nt turn up the decision automatically goes against him and you get your money back.
Have a look at www.moneyclaim.gov.uk and I bet you get the your moulds or your money back quickly.

hope this helps

Steve

Paul E · 02-06-2012, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TWIN RIG

No offence but why don't you grow some balls and go and get your property back ?

I agree! If I'd paid good money for something and not received it I'd be round there with the boys claiming what's rightfully mine!!

still no worries · 02-06-2012, 09:10 PM

There's more to this story (and no I don't know anything about it)

russ williams · 03-06-2012, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by still no worries

There's more to this story (and no I don't know anything about it)

That's a bit of an odd post, the fact is I paid for the moulds Martyn never paid a penny. In his defence he has signed the moulds over to me and has never refused to hand them over, but as yet he hasn't for all sorts of reasons. There is no more to this story other than I have had no access to the moulds, yet they are mine. What I can say is, one of the reasons was he owed the barn owner money which he has now paid.

Think I had more than one or two beers yesterday.

Braking in to the barn is no go police would be in 5 mins
And getting myself nicked for sorting him out is just stupid
Will hold off on the splash for now.
Just hope he sorts this out and does the right thing,i would love to be able to say the man come good lets hope i can do that very soon.

still no worries · 03-06-2012, 11:04 AM

Thanks that makes it a lot clearer, I hope you get the moulds back ASAP.

still no worries · 03-06-2012, 11:10 AM

I forgot to ask if the original mould was damaged and you had to make a new one (splash)why do some people have a problem with this ?

russ williams · 03-06-2012, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by still no worries

I forgot to ask if the original mould was damaged and you had to make a new one (splash)why do some people have a problem with this ?

You are right in saying the moulds have seen better days the issue is having the original SB moulds and the true rights to build.New moulds will have to be made at some time or other,and i cant see how anyone could call them a splash,unless they want the p21 to just die out.But that's a very good question,suppose will have to just deal with that when the time comes.
Thick skin is properly the only way to go on that one me thinks

russ williams · 03-06-2012, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by maz928

Hi Russ

I personally would'nt do a splash on the p21 as it will always be known as a splash no matter how good I'm sure you will make it.

I would go through the small claims court route which is for claims up to 5k and is very quick and easy to use.If he does'nt turn up the decision automatically goes against him and you get your money back.
Have a look at www.moneyclaim.gov.uk and I bet you get the your moulds or your money back quickly.

hope this helps

Steve

I must say that the SBp21 tooling is 100% mine with paper work to prove it and sole rights to build Martyn has signed them over to me,so if i did make new moulds how could you call that splashing

RonnieH · 03-06-2012, 01:17 PM

Ok, this is driving me mental. My name is Diane Hall. My husband owns Hydromax Powerboats Ltd. I have found this posting as a result of SEO-ing and it is REALLY annoying me, that is the only reason I am posting, I would never normally involve myself in such petty BS... but first of all, Martyn Vezey WORKS for us, he is not a director, owner, shareholder or anything but an employee. Yep, he may be all the things you say but Russ is not being as honest as you would all like to think. Russ has visited my husband at Hydromax (some time ago) regarding his “ownership” of the moulds and we have seen the paperwork Russ has been given by Vezey. We have, out of civility, given Russ several options to help him recover his £5k, he has chosen not to. Russ obviously is aware of all of this so why the postings? He is not making full disclosure to you including about the hull he has been already been given by Vezey. One more thing, that warehouse, the tooling? That is Hydromax’s property so therefore mine and my husbands, I do not appreciate threats to my property especially when baseball bats etc get mentioned, I am proper pee’d off and I will forward all this to the police if any damage occurs. The moulds are in a barn in Marchwood, Tavells Lane, you know that, we want nothing to do with them or any of this, help yourself Russ. That’s all.