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06-10-2008, 09:32 PM
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Registered User
Country: Guernsey
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Engines: Turbines mainly!
Cruising area: The inside of my workshop!
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look on the bright side... only the prop fell off!!
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06-10-2008, 09:32 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Hampshire
Occupation: Credit Crunched
Interests: Rally Driving
Boat name: Double 2 Shirts
Boat make: Planatec 41
Engines: 2x625's+ From Uncle Sam
Cruising area: Solent
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Location: Hampshire
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Quote:
Originally Posted by larby
Not a problem Martin, neither did I. I'm shocked my it all but i'm well aware none of it is your fault. All of this was hidden by.... P38 filler.
I'd love to hear any excuse/reason for the appauling quality of all this from the builder!
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Thank you James..
A Bit of my Creditability restored..
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06-10-2008, 09:33 PM
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#23
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Hampshire
Occupation: Credit Crunched
Interests: Rally Driving
Boat name: Double 2 Shirts
Boat make: Planatec 41
Engines: 2x625's+ From Uncle Sam
Cruising area: Solent
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 2,522
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Quote:
Originally Posted by larby
look on the bright side... only the prop fell off!!
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That prop cost me $675 and it was the first outing
Then the rebuild of the gear box...... thanks Geoff for doing a good job on that
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06-10-2008, 09:35 PM
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#24
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Registered User
Country: Guernsey
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pash 1
Then the rebuild of the gear box...... thanks Geoff for doing a good job on that
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Indeed! Thankfully then engine is the one part of her which is immaculate... Including the lovely smooth gearbox!
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06-10-2008, 09:36 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
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Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
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Quote:
Originally Posted by larby
Oh the best is yet to come!!
After i'd got over this i breathed a sigh of relief... I'd got back to the original transom.
Or had I??
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That boat never had a 'transom' as such behind the tunnel.
Two small motor mount transoms, tween each pair of motor knees behind each sponson, but the top of the tunnel (remember it was originally a twin cockpit boat) sloped down toward the stern, the thickness of the 'wing' between sponsons was probably only 10-12 inches at the stern, with a steep (maybe 45 degree) drop off right aft. So, you won't find an 'original transom'.
However, you might find Geoff Purves and Joe Donohoo sobbing in their beer if they see these pics.
That *work* is truly shocking.
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06-10-2008, 09:36 PM
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#26
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Hampshire
Occupation: Credit Crunched
Interests: Rally Driving
Boat name: Double 2 Shirts
Boat make: Planatec 41
Engines: 2x625's+ From Uncle Sam
Cruising area: Solent
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Location: Hampshire
Posts: 2,522
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Oh there is a God......
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06-10-2008, 09:40 PM
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#27
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Registered User
Country: Guernsey
Occupation: Engineering
Boat make: None, boo!
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Cruising area: The inside of my workshop!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Fuller
That boat never had a 'transom' as such behind the tunnel.
Two small motor mount transoms, tween each pair of motor knees behind each sponson, but the top of the tunnel (remember it was originally a twin cockpit boat) sloped down toward the stern, the thickness of the 'wing' between sponsons was probably only 10-12 inches at the stern, with a steep (maybe 45 degree) drop off right aft. So, you won't find an 'original transom'.
However, you might find Geoff Purves and Joe Donohoo sobbing in their beer if they see these pics.
That *work* is truly shocking.
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I had a good look at the old pics of the boat once i got home and saw this, which would explain why i didn't find and 'transom' in the middle!
Unfortunately they ground back the original motor mounts and glassed over them whilst doing this. The glassing didn't hold at all behind those plates so as a result the bits of transom it did have are also sopping wet.
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06-10-2008, 09:46 PM
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#28
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Registered User
Country: Guernsey
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If anyone's got any close pics of the inside or outside of the transom area I would be eternally grateful! There's a whole variety of stuff in there which all looks like it could be involved with holding the motors on... from bits of ply to angle brackets!
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06-10-2008, 09:56 PM
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#29
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Registered User
Location: GOLDEN MILE
Boat name: LILY THE PINK AND TERMINATOR 11
Boat make: PHANTOM 21 AND 20
Engines: 2.5 EFI X 2
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pash 1
Steve Hutch did the rebuild/converstion
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Pash I hope you know a good lawyer !... I think you will find the guy you bought it off did all the joinery work it was a bare hull and trailer when sold, it didn't even have a floor in. I have some pics somewhere but this is all I can find at the moment, you can just about see the transom as it was when sold.
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06-10-2008, 10:01 PM
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#30
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Hampshire
Occupation: Credit Crunched
Interests: Rally Driving
Boat name: Double 2 Shirts
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Quote:
Originally Posted by roofer
Pash I hope you know a good lawyer !... I think you will find the guy you bought it off did all the joinery work it was a bare hull and trailer when sold, it didn't even have a floor in. I have some pics somewhere but this is all I can find at the moment, you can just about see the transom as it was when sold.
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The "Chap" I swaped it with my Ring 21 said the work was done by Steve, I can only go on what Im told..
If Steve didnt do the work them I Publically Appologise for the incorrect statement, But it was Steve who fitted one of Gav's decks to her, and one can only take it that to fit the deck the other works must have been done, the engine also (I believe) also originated from Steve..... so I am lead to believe.
In addition I did not denegrade Any of the work done ....
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06-10-2008, 10:04 PM
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#31
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: South Coast
Interests: Boats/Cranes
Boat make: Revenger 29 RIB
Engines: Illmor V10/625hp.
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I will be seeing Geoff later on this week i reckon his beer will be well and truly watered down !!
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06-10-2008, 10:11 PM
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#32
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Registered User
Location: GOLDEN MILE
Boat name: LILY THE PINK AND TERMINATOR 11
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Pic of transom before deck was fitted.
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06-10-2008, 10:13 PM
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#33
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Hampshire
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I rest my case.....
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06-10-2008, 10:19 PM
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#34
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Registered User
Location: GOLDEN MILE
Boat name: LILY THE PINK AND TERMINATOR 11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pash 1
I rest my case.....
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Pash you want to take a closer look at both pics and you'll notice the transom was never touched. There's some pics on this forum that show the new deck fitted but I can't find them
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06-10-2008, 10:26 PM
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#35
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Hampshire
Occupation: Credit Crunched
Interests: Rally Driving
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Whats this???
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06-10-2008, 10:31 PM
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#36
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
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Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
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In the pic with the Seaquel deck on it, the the motor knee's appear to be gone already.
Larby, In the pic taken at what looks like Windermere (boat in blue), the 'wing' is different to the original, much deeper, presumebly because it had had the centre cockpit mod. total wing depth was originally no more than 12" at stern.
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06-10-2008, 10:33 PM
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#37
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
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Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
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Location: South
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pash 1
Whats this???
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Tunnel extension, you can see it in the pic where it's blue. protrudes beyond motor transoms by about 12".
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06-10-2008, 10:34 PM
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#38
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Hampshire
Occupation: Credit Crunched
Interests: Rally Driving
Boat name: Double 2 Shirts
Boat make: Planatec 41
Engines: 2x625's+ From Uncle Sam
Cruising area: Solent
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 2,522
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Fuller
Tunnel extension, you can see it in the pic where it's blue. protrudes beyond motor transoms by about 12".
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No This ....
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06-10-2008, 10:36 PM
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#39
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
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Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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Quote:
Originally Posted by roofer
I think you will find the guy you bought it off did all the joinery work.
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I think to use the term 'joinery work' is rather flattering, don't you!
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06-10-2008, 10:37 PM
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#40
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Hampshire
Occupation: Credit Crunched
Interests: Rally Driving
Boat name: Double 2 Shirts
Boat make: Planatec 41
Engines: 2x625's+ From Uncle Sam
Cruising area: Solent
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 2,522
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Fuller
I think to use the term 'joinery work' is rather flattering, don't you!
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No a "Bench Joiner"
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