Boat make: Sunseeker San Remo/mini cougar/Cougar cat 25/Avenger 21
Engines: San Remo 2x Volvo 5.7 v8/mini cougar Yamaha 25/Cougar 2x twin spark Yam V6/Avenger has volvo 300v8
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ukoba 1989
Hi,
Does anyone know if the UKOBA 1989 series is available vhs/dvd as it shows my Cougar racing against Flippin eck/Brut.
Also can anyone tell me if I fit a pair of H/O 250 E-tech which do not have contra rotating boxes will there be much effect on the boat as they are so far spaced apart.
Does anyone know if the UKOBA 1989 series is available vhs/dvd as it shows my Cougar racing against Flippin eck/Brut.
Also can anyone tell me if I fit a pair of H/O 250 E-tech which do not have contra rotating boxes will there be much effect on the boat as they are so far spaced apart.
Thanks
Steve
Hi Steve
I was racing on Flippin Eck that year and I think that the BBC filmed us throughout that series. I am sure you feature there somewhere during the Needles race. I will have a look and come back to you. I do have it on DVD kindly put on there by Jon Fuller. It might even be on here somewhere, anyhow, I will have a look and report back.
ML.
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Boat make: Sunseeker San Remo/mini cougar/Cougar cat 25/Avenger 21
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Originally Posted by OldMan
Hi Steve
I was racing on Flippin Eck that year and I think that the BBC filmed us throughout that series. I am sure you feature there somewhere during the Needles race. I will have a look and come back to you. I do have it on DVD kindly put on there by Jon Fuller. It might even be on here somewhere, anyhow, I will have a look and report back.
ML.
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Thanks for that, the Cougar was being raced by Andrew Chambers at the time.
I have a great picture framed 22x18 with both boats leaping around that I found at Southampton boatshow a few years ago.
Look forward to hearing from you soon
Are we talking about `Black Flash` as raced by A.Chambers in 87/88.No record of it in 89.If it is,it`s featured as the villiain`s boat in `Howards Way`.
Boat make: Sunseeker San Remo/mini cougar/Cougar cat 25/Avenger 21
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ukoba 1989
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Originally Posted by FLYING FISH
Are we talking about `Black Flash` as raced by A.Chambers in 87/88.No record of it in 89.If it is,it`s featured as the villiain`s boat in `Howards Way`.
Thats the one, thanks for the great pic I have been asking Andy If he had any racing shots.
From the little race footage I have seen the Cougar handled really well in rough conditions which is mainly what we have in Guernsey.
When the boat raced here it saw off the reigning fast boat a P25 called Obsession running twin 2.4efi.
That was owned at the time by Martin Fernando of Jersey.
Are we talking about `Black Flash` as raced by A.Chambers in 87/88.No record of it in 89.If it is,it`s featured as the villiain`s boat in `Howards Way`.
The UKOBA race we are talking about was 1988 because that was the only year we raced Flippin Eck as a Class two boat. Still looking for the film!! If I remember right, the Ciugar Cat was struggling in the big head seas as we ran towards Old Harry Rocks.
ML.
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Originally Posted by OldMan
The UKOBA race we are talking about was 1988 because that was the only year we raced Flippin Eck as a Class two boat. Still looking for the film!! If I remember right, the Ciugar Cat was struggling in the big head seas as we ran towards Old Harry Rocks.
ML.
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Saw some footage on Myspace, did you put it there.
That was a rough race
Also can anyone tell me if I fit a pair of H/O 250 E-tech which do not have contra rotating boxes will there be much effect on the boat as they are so far spaced apart.
Thanks
Steve
You'd have a lot of steering torque, thats for sure, i don't think it'd be a very nice ride at all, she'd probably crab like mad! Mine can be a handful with the counter rotating!
I know where there's a nice pair of counter rotating yams just like the ones she used to run!
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Originally Posted by larby
You'd have a lot of steering torque, thats for sure, i don't think it'd be a very nice ride at all, she'd probably crab like mad! Mine can be a handful with the counter rotating!
I know where there's a nice pair of counter rotating yams just like the ones she used to run!
James
Hi James,
Thanks for that but I did a fair few hours in Flash after the Yams were rebuilt, having always raced Mercs I think the extra grunt of the 250xs motors would be ideal.
A couple of people are chasing these up for me at the moment
We tried a set 250 yamaha,s on a Cougar 25 ,this was 12-13 years ago so there were only 25 inch shafts in 250 Yams ,we put them on brackets so centerline props were pretty high so there was barely enough water pressure ,with all that torque it shoot out of the hole like a rocket ,but there was never any topspeed ,not like with 2 x 2,4 EFI Mercs that were on the boat when she came ,when the mercs start screaming the boat was going fast ,much faster than with new 250,yams .
We still think it has to do with the lower units sticking too deep in the water ,and drag too much .
I think the best you can do is to find a set engines that are not too heavy in weight ,so the balance is not disturbed to much.
Don,t buy a set without counter rotation ,its dangerous ,the 250 XS mercs are good engines ,good power too,and the right lower units for your boat ,the sportmasters are the best for a surface application like yours is .
Boat make: Sunseeker San Remo/mini cougar/Cougar cat 25/Avenger 21
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Originally Posted by sterling
We tried a set 250 yamaha,s on a Cougar 25 ,this was 12-13 years ago so there were only 25 inch shafts in 250 Yams ,we put them on brackets so centerline props were pretty high so there was barely enough water pressure ,with all that torque it shoot out of the hole like a rocket ,but there was never any topspeed ,not like with 2 x 2,4 EFI Mercs that were on the boat when she came ,when the mercs start screaming the boat was going fast ,much faster than with new 250,yams .
We still think it has to do with the lower units sticking too deep in the water ,and drag too much .
I think the best you can do is to find a set engines that are not too heavy in weight ,so the balance is not disturbed to much.
Don,t buy a set without counter rotation ,its dangerous ,the 250 XS mercs are good engines ,good power too,and the right lower units for your boat ,the sportmasters are the best for a surface application like yours is .
Thanks for that,
The merc 250xs definately look like the way to go.
What happened to your Cougar-do you have any pics
We sold the Cougar 25,several years ago,we had a 27 too, first with 4 x 2,4 efi,s , and almost got killed,later we tried 3 x 2,4 efi,s , we sold that boat too.
I do have pics somewhere from the 25,but not digital...
Cougar cats are good in the rough ,stiff and strong .
The 25 had a big porposing zone ,the 27 had no notch ,so true bottem is actually a lot longer ,and by adding a manual lift/jackplate with a little setback it worked ok ,and we could raise the engines far enough to have good speed.
Boat make: Sunseeker San Remo/mini cougar/Cougar cat 25/Avenger 21
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Originally Posted by sterling
We sold the Cougar 25,several years ago,we had a 27 too, first with 4 x 2,4 efi,s , and almost got killed,later we tried 3 x 2,4 efi,s , we sold that boat too.
I do have pics somewhere from the 25,but not digital...
Cougar cats are good in the rough ,stiff and strong .
The 25 had a big porposing zone ,the 27 had no notch ,so true bottem is actually a lot longer ,and by adding a manual lift/jackplate with a little setback it worked ok ,and we could raise the engines far enough to have good speed.
I have seen a 27 in yellow/white livery running a pair of 300V8 Evinrudes, thats a lot of weight hanging off the blunt end.
The jack plates sound like a good idea and I might fit a decent set of trim plates to give a little more waterline length-best thing I ever did on my phantom 600.
Thanks for the info, I would have loved to see your 27 go with the EFI,s on
The hull looked exactly like my 25 Cougar ,but I have not seen a deck like yours ? did you have it modified ?
Is the Velocity in the back of the picture yours ?
What length, and is it for sale ?
Boat make: Sunseeker San Remo/mini cougar/Cougar cat 25/Avenger 21
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The hull looked exactly like my 25 Cougar ,but I have not seen a deck like yours ? did you have it modified ?
Is the Velocity in the back of the picture yours ?
What length, and is it for sale ?
A.J
Hi A.J.
No mods done to Cougar/as factory finished
The Velocity is a 26, I know who owns it, I will ask him if its for sale and get back to you.
It has not been in use for some time and as far as I know has a pair of 350,s