US boat builders ??

[fish]

glad to see this thread is heading back in a productive direction. As for building with a race layup, I believe it is what the consumer market over here dictates. I agree, why would you not want it all things being equal, but there are lots of folks over here that want an offshore look, feel, sound, but pretty much just drive them from watering hole to watering hole. Since it is more expensive to build it like a tank, I think many of the purchasers would rather pay less for all the look and feel of a race boat, and have money left over for the big gold chains LOL

I also believe there are folks on both sides of the pond that can break anything no matter how well it is made.

[Comanche3Six]

Originally posted by verytricky
Or is the definition of rough different?

That is a great question!
A lot of individuals, some even without Offshore Powerboats, profess to handle 8' seas on a regular basis. Fantastic
There are some that will run rough water . JE Electric Apache, SC RedHot Apache, 41 Warpaint Apache, Wild Turkey Cigarette Top Gun and a host of others. Some people can really get these Powerboats flying! Here is a great pic of Warpath. I imagine the throttling chores were interesting

[Jon Fuller]

Originally posted by Comanche3Six
A lot of individuals, some even without Offshore Powerboats, profess to handle 8' seas on a regular basis.

Yeah, I always enjoy those comments! I reckon most would shit themselves if confronted with 8' waves at speed, I know I would, it'd be like a wall.

[Foolish]

Originally posted by Jon Fuller
The whole 'Hand Throttle' thing is very much a traditional thing over there, I personaly agree with you, hand throttling is I think superior when it's a dedicated task, as in a race boat, where you can hold yourself in with one hand (grab handle down the side of the seat, with trim switches within thumbs reach) and the other hand dedicated to the stick, or of course harnessed in when in a canopied boat.
But un-harnessed, one hand on the wheel, the other on the stick, just doesn't fell right to me, and is why I altered my 28 to foot throttle (or hand for cruising).

It's all rather un heard of over the pond tho' and I reckon loads more Yanks would run with foot throttles if they tried it, it feels way more secure, controlable and safe.

Even in a "non" race boat i think the addition of a foot throttle would be benificial, i agree most of the time when it's calm "hand" is not a problem but as soon as it gets rough and i still want to play i would prefer two hands on the wheel and the quicker response time with a "foot",

[Comanche3Six]

Originally posted by fish

I also believe there are folks on both sides of the pond that can break anything no matter how well it is made.

That is a fact. A friend of mine and a very knowledgable Apache enthusiast spent a lot of money to travel abroad and purchase HammerHead. A truely fantastic Apache. He was amazed at the poor condition. The owner took him for a ride and hit two boats. I guess you could say he was a little rough. We have seen a pic of it sunk, here is one of it flying sweet. Maybe it will be reconditioned? McManus is the master.

[sinkunit0]

theres been a few times in my 18 where i could not possiably remove a hand from the wheel to back off the throttle or i would off interfaced with the wheel or ended up in the passenger seat. i,m staggered that so few in the states seem to use foot throttle.

[sea-ray 400ci]

I reckon it depends on the apllication. I used to have a Phantom 21 with a Bridgeport 2.5 on it. It would have been unuseable without one. In the dim and distant past i had a really early martian 21 with an old 235 evinrude. This was also fitted with a foot throttle, but at low speeds, or coming up on the plane you couldn't see over the nose. It also wasn't very good if i used the boat for skiing. I reckon if your going to have one, it has to be of the type where both throttle and hand systems are conjoined.

[Jon Fuller]

Originally posted by Foolish
the quicker response time with a "foot",

I'm a great believer in the foot throttle system, where one person is doing it all, but I do believe that contrary to what some think, the hand throttle response time is better than the foot, when used in the 'dedicated' throttleman layout, at least I'm able to respond better/quicker when throttling & trimming by hand 'only' (and not driving).

[Dunaruna]

Nice to see this thread back on an even Keel !

[Jon Fuller]

Welcome to Boatmad 'Dunaruna'. What boat do you have in France?

[Comanche3Six]

Originally posted by Dunaruna
Nice to see this thread back on an even Keel !

Real Offshore Powerboaters!!!!!!!!!!

A little visual

[Comanche3Six]

Ok, I need some help with the audio.......I have a sound bite of the Comanche...how do I post it?

[Jon Fuller]

to make it play with the post, it needs to be a macromedia flash file, then it needs hosting somewhere, with a link to it in the post.


do you have it as a video?

[Jon Fuller]

Have you Yanks, Frogs, Swedes etc, checked out the multimedia gallery on boatmad?

have a look.

http://media.boatmad.com/gallery/main.php


Some great vids, from here and around the world, and 'littlenige's' Photo Gallery is quite superb!

[Dunaruna]

Good to be with you on Boatmad.
I run an old Cig 35' in the Med.

[Jon Fuller]

Cool. what motors?

[Dunaruna]

Its a classic boat with a classic set up .
runnin 365 Hp Mercs With Velvet trans & TRSs
It aint fast but it s a cool ride.

[Jon Fuller]

sounds nice, nothing like the smoothness of a velvet drive going into gear. makes you realise how clunky a Bravo is!

[Dunaruna]

A 1977 Cig Sittin pretty.
Just getting to grips with how your site works!
being new to Boatmad.

[Jon Fuller]

very nice.