US boat builders ?? - Page 15

Foolish · 16-01-2006, 07:01 PM

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Originally posted by fish
Wow, that is a great video!!!

Watched that video on here many times .... (one of my favorites)
but never spotted (at 1min 28 secs ) the way the driver reacted.. would loved to see the expression on his face as he was preparing for the second dunking

MikeyFIN · 16-01-2006, 09:13 PM

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Originally posted by Comanche3Six
There is a lot of deep rooted ill feelings amongst the Apache people past and present. All of it very well founded of course. Welcome to the jungle!

Thats the Curse you have to live with when the son kills his father in a tribe....(Kramer vs. Aronow).

Now Comanches Chiefs Apaches...when does the Baddest tribe of them all Rise from the Ashes...the Siouxies....

MikeyFIN · 16-01-2006, 09:26 PM

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Originally posted by Speed
Really? I live off Virginia Beach and we run OFFSHORE all the time in some heavy snot. (BTW: That's the Altlantic Ocean)
Like I said get out a bit, it'll do you good !

Guess you both dunno squat about some serious Stuff...just ask those who run in the North Sea or Baltic...So quit both of you.
Larry Smith does boats that can handle everything

Jon Fuller · 16-01-2006, 09:34 PM

I think it's fair to say, that the Atlantic, North sea, English channel, Irish sea, and any number of others (the great lakes included) can kick up a sea quite easily that none of us would want to be out in, so a pissing contest will prove nothing, shit, i've been in the Solent (relatively small stretch of water between UK mainland and the Isle of Wight) in stuff that scared the shit outta me, so lets not get into a "my seas are bigger an yours" contest fellas, we're bigger n that.

Comanche3Six · 16-01-2006, 09:45 PM

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Originally posted by MikeyFIN
Thats the Curse you have to live with when the son kills his father in a tribe....(Kramer vs. Aronow).

Well Said

Comanche3Six · 16-01-2006, 09:55 PM

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Originally posted by MikeyFIN
Guess you both dunno squat about some serious Stuff...just ask those who run in the North Sea or Baltic...So quit both of you.
Larry Smith does boats that can handle everything

6' seas is already 1' or 2' past where I like it. Any more than that and I'll be at the pub with a pint.

Larry Smith and George Clooney can have at it. I wish them the best.

http://aolsearch.aol.com/aol/redir?s...+Perfect+Storm

Comanche3Six · 16-01-2006, 09:58 PM

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Originally posted by Jon Fuller
Yeah, the pics of Rocky Aoki's boat were pretty dramatic, as were the pics of Tom Gentry's mono that did a similar thing.

Also some great footage of a major structural failure in this Freeze-Frame clip. Looks like a fkkn bomb went off in the cabin!

http://media.boatmad.com/gallery/v/m...eedit.wmv.html

Wow!! That boat really came apart!

MikeyFIN · 16-01-2006, 10:16 PM

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Originally posted by Comanche3Six
6' seas is already 1' or 2' past where I like it. Any more than that and I'll be at the pub with a pint.

Larry Smith and George Clooney can have at it. I wish them the best.

http://aolsearch.aol.com/aol/redir?s...+Perfect+Storm

Well this fall/winter there was a storm warning of 30ft waves on the radio for the Gulf of Finland and when I heard it I almost crapped in my pants as I live by the sea.

Rumour has it that the sea was just as big when the Ferry Estonia sank just 40 miles from where I write this.
The Solvent is known to be nasty but nowhere theres so much shipwrecks than in the Baltic...a coincidence?
Don´t think so has to do with the shallowness and especially our archipelago.

Me stating Larry was thought of him whne in a hotboat article he was definitely against step bottoms for offhosre boats.
Told that 70-80 mph is enough in heavy conditions for any brave soul.

I didn´t mean this to soound as a pissing contest...or yes actually I did but with a tongue in cheek.
Me got very much respect for Jersey/ NE coast boaters as a lot of Top Sailors come from there.

Jon Fuller · 16-01-2006, 10:20 PM

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Originally posted by MikeyFIN
The Solvent is known to be nasty

Another Freudian slip?

Only joking.

Comanche3Six · 16-01-2006, 10:33 PM

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Originally posted by MikeyFIN
Well this fall/winter there was a storm warning of 30ft waves on the radio for the Gulf of Finland and when I heard it I almost crapped in my pants as I live by the sea.

Rumour has it that the sea was just as big when the Ferry Estonia sank just 40 miles from where I write this.
The Solvent is known to be nasty but nowhere theres so much shipwrecks than in the Baltic...a coincidence?
Don´t think so has to do with the shallowness and especially our archipelago.

Me stating Larry was thought of him whne in a hotboat article he was definitely against step bottoms for offhosre boats.
Told that 70-80 mph is enough in heavy conditions for any brave soul.

I didn´t mean this to soound as a pissing contest...or yes actually I did but with a tongue in cheek.
Me got very much respect for Jersey/ NE coast boaters as a lot of Top Sailors come from there.

Now that you brought this topic up, I wonder just how big the seas can be that some of the Offshore Powerboats can handle? Pics or video would be nice, as lost as you have a helicopter filming you. And I can really be brazen with an Apache as long as I don't have a 20 year mortgage on the bugger. That's my main reason for respecting my property......I have to pay for it. Reality is a pain in the wallet.

http://secure.offshoreonly.com/movie...Challenge.html

rama · 16-01-2006, 10:47 PM

I seem to reacll Jon knowing the feeling the last boat had in that vid

Comanche3Six · 17-01-2006, 12:33 AM

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Originally posted by rama
I seem to reacll Jon knowing the feeling the last boat had in that vid

The price of Fame

michaelcaine · 17-01-2006, 12:45 AM

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Originally posted by Jon Fuller
Yeah, I always enjoy those comments! I reckon most would shit themselves if confronted with 8' waves at speed, I know I would, it'd be like a wall.

id go out in 8 inch waves no problem!

Jon Fuller · 17-01-2006, 01:16 AM

I have that 1985 Apache 'Bermuda Triangle' video on DVD, Jack Lieske sent it to me, in fact he sent me two, can't remember what the other one's called.

Comanche3Six · 17-01-2006, 01:20 AM

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Originally posted by Jon Fuller
I have that 1985 Apache 'Bermuda Triangle' video on DVD, Jack Lieske sent it to me, in fact he sent me two, can't remember what the other one's called.

Now that is real Offshore Racing!

Speed · 17-01-2006, 01:59 AM

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Originally posted by MikeyFIN
Guess you both dunno squat about some serious Stuff...just ask those who run in the North Sea or Baltic...So quit both of you.
Larry Smith does boats that can handle everything

I've been in seas you could only dream about.

Dunaruna · 17-01-2006, 05:09 AM

Rough water/Smooth water what the Hell.
When you are out in it. You Are OUT in IT.
You just gotta get out there and take what comes.
The aim of boats is using them and getting time on the water.
When you are happy to be back in port,there is generally a good reason for It.!and you know it.
The more you use the boats the more you respect the elements
and how your boat works.
Sometimes you have no choice and you get caught in the rough. Keep it Safe.

Dunaruna · 17-01-2006, 05:24 AM

Just thought it would be good to put another boat on this thread.
Pantera survivor 36 photo Aug 2005.

Jon Fuller · 17-01-2006, 10:40 AM

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Originally posted by Dunaruna
Just thought it would be good to put another boat on this thread.
Pantera survivor 36 photo Aug 2005.

Very nice, although as I said in another thread, a huge percentage of the US offshore fleet, seems to derive from one basic hull/running surface, that is, the Jim Wynne/Walt Walters Cary/Cigarette.

As I also said in another thread, walking along the dry storage racking at Fort Apache a few years back, it was astonishing just how many 30' and up Yanky monos appear to have the same running surface/topsides, and even have the same wee fault in the st/bd upper spray rail, just a liitle 'turn down' of the last 6 inches or so, but a berth mark none the less, showing the origin of the multitude of manufacturers there.

We looked at the 36 Pantera 'Fair & White' when it was here with the P1 fleet in 2004, it has the very same berth mark!

In fact Tony Davis on this forum, supplied that team with a replacement Bravo gimble assy whilst they were here, as they bust one in the first very rough race at Brighton....I'll post a couple of pics for Ed & co.

It begs the question, just how many boats are in existance around the globe, that derive from that first 'plug'? quite amazing.

jf

Jon Fuller · 17-01-2006, 10:47 AM

OK, rather than posting pics, i'll just link to the thread about Brighton '04, there's some great shots, well worth a look.

http://www.boatmad.com/forum/showthr...=&threadid=770