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Old 11-05-2004, 07:53 AM   #61
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cool plse keep them coming.... that black tender is my favourite!!
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Old 11-05-2004, 11:59 AM   #62
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WTF is a tender? I thought I knew all the slang?
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Old 11-05-2004, 12:13 PM   #63
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Here's a 22' APACHE tender...
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Old 11-05-2004, 12:32 PM   #64
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O.K. so a Tender is a boat on a boat! Got it.
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Old 11-05-2004, 12:37 PM   #65
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NO...well..yes..it's a boat to get to a larger boat ..or to shore.When larger vessels can't dock,they have a tender for transport..in this case,it's a 22' APACHE...
But,BULLROAR is a 36' APACHE for a 300' yacht..here it is
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Old 11-05-2004, 12:38 PM   #66
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Old 11-05-2004, 12:44 PM   #67
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Black is wicked, when its clean! Oh, but it should come with No STEP stickers all over it. Can you say HOT!

My last boat was solid red, inside and out, and it was hot! Can't imagine all black!
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Old 12-05-2004, 11:06 PM   #68
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It has an Ostrich interior...
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Here's a 22' APACHE tender...
Jack,

The "Tender" on M/Y CHAMAR is a 28' with twin Yanmar LP6's on Bravo's. The yacht is a 300' German built - aluminum.

The home for "Bull Roar" is a 195' Feadship.

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Thanks for straightening me out Eric
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Hope your doing well Jack. This site wouldn't send back a confirmation email for my real name.
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Jon,

Eric was the person that you refered to in your earlier post. Eric was Bob Saccenti's partner and built all of the 28's and the 36's(and probably a few others that I am missing).
If anyone has intimate knowledge of these boats,Eric does.

Everything is great Eric...ru coming up to SOTW?
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Its was me that asked the question...
Hi Eric, I met you on your stand at the miami boat show 2002, think it was one of the few days it has ever rained!!!

You were going to show me a local 28 with big power later in the week, but i believe someone stole the drives!!

I remember you saying you were putting twin yanmars in a 28...
How did it run?
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Old 13-05-2004, 08:25 AM   #74
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Jack,

The "Tender" on M/Y CHAMAR is a 28' with twin Yanmar LP6's on Bravo's. The yacht is a 300' German built - aluminum.

The home for "Bull Roar" is a 195' Feadship.

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Eric, Hi, and welcome to Boatmad

I too would be very interested to know how that 28 with Yanmars went. You said they were LP6's, but were they 250's (2 valve) or 300's (4 valve)? Also, what was the all up weight?

Ta, JF
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my moneys on twin 300/315hp dont think Eric considers fitting these heavy 28's with sub 600hp !!
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Good morning guys,

Thanks for the welcome. It is a pleasure to come to a friendly forum. I think this “Yank” might be staying a while. Hope you don’t mind.

The 28’ pictured was a definite challenge to build. The parameters set by the owner were; A) It must fit on deck without any modifications to the yacht. B) It must accommodate the current rail lifting system without any mods to the yacht. C) It must be twin 6LP Yanmar (300 HP) diesel. D) It must have a swim platform. E) It must have Air Conditioning, hot water for a shower and a generator. F) It must have at least 200 gallons of fuel. G) It must run 50 knots. H) It must weigh less than 7000# dry. Quite a grocery list for only 28 foot of boat.

First headache was getting a full 28’ (31’ with drives in the trailer position) into a stowage bay of 29’. The 6” of vertical wasn’t really a problem because once up and on the winch locks it is what it is. As long as the Captain had the winch locks set properly everything was peachy vertically thanks to the two piece deck chocks. To accommodate the length parameters the transom was pocketed with an insert 30”. Obviously this created several issues. First, I just shortened the bottom and with the amount of rocker in the 28’ this was not a good thing so shingles were made for the mold to remove some of the remaining rocker. The boat was build exclusively of Kevlar and NidaCore. Another problem created by pocketing the transom in this manner was the engine bay dimensions. Therefore, bulkheads were relocated and the cockpit liner was modified after molding. The swim platform issue was overcome with a hydraulic, rail type, nylon lined platform which used an 18” steering cylinder and extended and retracted into the top of the 30” transom pocket. For AC I used a commercial duty GM marinized system which ran off the port engine. I forget the exact specs for the generator which was also engine driven (pulley and belt) by the port engine. For the hot water I build an insulated 15 gallon aluminum tank with 30’ of coiled ¾” copper inside and plumbed it to, you guessed it, the port engine cooling system. The 200 gallons of fuel was in two tanks. The boat ran 63 MPH and weighed 6800#.

I’ve got lots of pictures of different boat and constructions. If you’d like me to post let me know.

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In this photo you can make out the transon jig
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Its was me that asked the question...
Hi Eric, I met you on your stand at the miami boat show 2002, think it was one of the few days it has ever rained!!!

You were going to show me a local 28 with big power later in the week, but i believe someone stole the drives!!

I remember you saying you were putting twin yanmars in a 28...
How did it run?
Do you have any photos?
cheers

Admiral,

This is the 28' I wanted to get you out on
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Not much of a hull to run on with the transom moved ahead like that? How did the finished product run?
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