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13-05-2004, 01:55 PM
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#81
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Registered User
Country: USA
Location: FL / NC
Occupation: Ball Buster
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Location: FL / NC
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Another of T/T M/Y Chamar
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13-05-2004, 02:03 PM
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#82
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Location: FL / NC
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Quote:
Originally posted by Canada jeff
Not much of a hull to run on with the transom moved ahead like that? How did the finished product run?
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Your 100% correct Jeff. I was extremely concerned about that. However, with the removal of the rocker I was very pleased with the overall handling of the boat. My only gripe was that because of the weight restriction placed on this project, I was not able to establish a CG of my liking. Obviously, with two big diesels in the rear it was without question stern heavy. The boat was very user friendly though, and responsive to both trim and wheel position.
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14-05-2004, 09:29 AM
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#83
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Country: Lymington UK
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Eric
was upset to say the least that I missed that opportunity!!
cheers
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14-05-2004, 10:45 AM
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#84
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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Eric,
Look's like a lovely build! I take it the Stringer material is similar to divinicel foam?
What is the beam on this boat? I had/have issues with CofG on my Phantom (without 30" of running surface missing), but the Phantom only has an overall beam of 7'! this design was originaly for triple OB's.
It's OK when driving it like your life depends on it, and the centre of lift has moved way aft, in fact I think when driving as if racing, it's wonderful in all but the nastiest sea.
An answer to your problem, and something I'm currently doing to mine, is a bow water ballast tank, I haven't seen them fitted to many US boats at all, but this is a very common fitment over here in the smaller race boats and shifts the CofG fwd very nicely when required. Just a simple cable controlled scoop/dump mounted on the transom feeding a 30-40 gallon tank right in the nose, say beneath the anchor locker.
This gadget totaly changes the behaviour of the boat when used in sloppy conditions, then dump it for flat out speed!
A company over here makes a beautiful cast 316 combined 'pick/up-dump' controlled by a single 33C cable/control box, it's "O" ringed and 'holds' totaly without leakage, so the tank is filled/emptied through the same 1-1/4" pipe into the bottom of the tank (with very large tank vent, say 1-1/2", to avoid bursting!)
Have a look here
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14-05-2004, 12:39 PM
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#85
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Registered User
Location: Scotland
Interests: Hole maker
Boat make: Humber Ocean Offshore
Engines: KAD 300/DPX
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Scotland
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Eric, are there no adhesion/delamination issues when you're building kevlar on kevlar on kevlar?
Nice clean build though.
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31-12-2005, 12:58 AM
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#86
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Registered User
Country: USA
Location: New Jersey
Occupation: Heavy Equiptment Operator
Interests: Vodka sampler
Boat name: Comanche Spirit
Boat make: Comanche 36
Engines: 800 HP
Cruising area: Atlantic Ocean
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 212
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Re: US boat builders ??
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Originally posted by Admiral P. Brain
think this question aimed at our US friends got lost on a previous site....
Which is the toughest built, best riding rough water hull your side of the pond??
In the 24-36ft range, new or old...
Cigarette, sonic, warlock, pantera, formula, apache, fountain, sunsation, active thunder, DCB ??
whats your view on stepped hulls compared to non stepped?? in terms of speed and handling/safety ??
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Comanche.
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31-12-2005, 01:34 AM
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#87
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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That's some expensive paint!
When do we get a ride?
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31-12-2005, 01:44 AM
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#88
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Registered User
Country: USA
Location: New Jersey
Occupation: Heavy Equiptment Operator
Interests: Vodka sampler
Boat name: Comanche Spirit
Boat make: Comanche 36
Engines: 800 HP
Cruising area: Atlantic Ocean
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 212
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jon Fuller
That's some expensive paint!
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Awlgrip
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31-12-2005, 01:45 AM
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#89
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Registered User
Country: USA
Location: New Jersey
Occupation: Heavy Equiptment Operator
Interests: Vodka sampler
Boat name: Comanche Spirit
Boat make: Comanche 36
Engines: 800 HP
Cruising area: Atlantic Ocean
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 212
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jon Fuller
When do we get a ride?
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Spring
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31-12-2005, 01:46 AM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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Awsome!!!
What Power/speed?
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31-12-2005, 02:14 AM
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#91
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Registered User
Country: USA
Location: New Jersey
Occupation: Heavy Equiptment Operator
Interests: Vodka sampler
Boat name: Comanche Spirit
Boat make: Comanche 36
Engines: 800 HP
Cruising area: Atlantic Ocean
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 212
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jon Fuller
Awsome!!!
What Power/speed?
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Twin 800 HP
I will post a picture of the speedometer at wide open throttle in the Spring
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31-12-2005, 04:46 AM
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#92
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Registered User
Location: Virginia, USA
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Virginia, USA
Posts: 81
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Quote:
Originally posted by cashbrain
33 Fountain Executioner...boat was called.."The Preacher" after a televengelist bought it and subsequntly went to jail..
With t/900's, Boxes and #5's..this boat will do around 110
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I believe that boat runs supercharged 598's and runs 116mph.
I also think this is a subjective question. Everybody has their "favorite" and will tell you theirs is the best.
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31-12-2005, 04:51 AM
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#93
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Location: Virginia, USA
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Virginia, USA
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Quote:
Originally posted by cashbrain
A 41 APACHE..the only stepped hull APACHE..Scott Grady is the owner..he also is the prinicipal of CHIEF Powerboats with Bob Saccenti( and also a good friend of mine !!)
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Word is Chief folded.(ie. closed down out of business) Don't know if it's true.
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31-12-2005, 10:20 AM
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#95
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There was an old man from Madras, Who had balls of fine brass, in stormy weather, they clang together, and sparks flew out of his ass !
Quote:
Originally posted by Speed
......brass balls.
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31-12-2005, 02:04 PM
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#96
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Registered User
Country: USA
Location: New Jersey
Occupation: Heavy Equiptment Operator
Interests: Vodka sampler
Boat name: Comanche Spirit
Boat make: Comanche 36
Engines: 800 HP
Cruising area: Atlantic Ocean
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 212
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Quote:
Originally posted by Speed
Word is Chief folded.(ie. closed down out of business) Don't know if it's true.
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Chief's phone is disconnected and they don't reply to any post's on OSO............I think they are finished
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31-12-2005, 02:05 PM
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#97
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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I'm not keen on 'the beak', they look really dated to me, and seem to self destruct in any sort of accident, bloody quick tho' they do seem to be!
just My Humble Opinion
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31-12-2005, 02:13 PM
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#98
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Registered User
Country: USA
Location: New Jersey
Occupation: Heavy Equiptment Operator
Interests: Vodka sampler
Boat name: Comanche Spirit
Boat make: Comanche 36
Engines: 800 HP
Cruising area: Atlantic Ocean
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 212
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jon Fuller
I'm not keen on 'the beak', they look really dated to me, and seem to self destruct in any sort of accident, bloody quick tho' they do seem to be!
just My Humble Opinion
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I agree 100%
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31-12-2005, 02:15 PM
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#99
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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Majorly popular in the US tho' eh!
PS. is the Comanche a modernised Apache 41? (or mebbe a 36)
PPS. see how you can mention 'Apache' on here without world war III breaking out!
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31-12-2005, 02:19 PM
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#100
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Registered User
Country: USA
Location: New Jersey
Occupation: Heavy Equiptment Operator
Interests: Vodka sampler
Boat name: Comanche Spirit
Boat make: Comanche 36
Engines: 800 HP
Cruising area: Atlantic Ocean
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 212
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Yes, Fountain is a very popular small water powerboat
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