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Old 10-09-2012, 07:08 AM   #481
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Forgive me if this is a stupid question but dock talk at CTC prompts it. Para 1.3 of the CMC regs states that crew can be between min of 2 and max of 6 aboard. Quite clear on numbers aboard at any one time.

By any definition this will be the most gruelling of races physically and in every other way. It has been suggested that some entrants plan to cycle through multiple crews to allow longer individual recuperation periods. Is this encouraged or allowed? i.e. it is the boat that is effectively the entrant and, as long as suitably qualified, multiple crews are permitted to get it to the finishing line?

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I am abroad checking out the venues right now -leaving benaladene as we speak and I will phone you later today to clarify the above during our drive to Alicante.

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I wonder if the likes of Chuck Norris, Kurt Russell or Don Johnson might be interested in taking part? Or are they too old now?

Or from the UK, Richard Hammond, Ben Ainslee etc.....????
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I wonder if the likes of Chuck Norris, Kurt Russell or Don Johnson might be interested in taking part? Or are they too old now?

Or from the UK, Richard Hammond, Ben Ainslee etc.....????
There I was 1989 at Trump Castle car park in Atlantic City, up popped Don Johnson and Melanie Griffith showing of there new powerboat. Right place at the right time!!
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I am abroad checking out the venues right now -leaving benaladene as we speak and I will phone you later today to clarify the above during our drive to Alicante.

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Is it possible to post the reply here at some time, when convenient, as the question could be on many peoples minds? Thanks.
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I was in Atlantic City too outside the Trump Plaza when they turned up: was there with Dredge, Frode and Tony Lewis. We saw our old chum Cadilac Macdonald who was working for Don Johnson on the boat. Week was a washout but the hookers were interesting- apparently ...
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I was in Atlantic City too outside the Trump Plaza when they turned up: was there with Dredge, Frode and Tony Lewis. We saw our old chum Cadilac Macdonald who was working for Don Johnson on the boat. Week was a washout but the hookers were interesting- apparently ...
You are correct pennpromo about the hookers, you could not move for hookers in the Resorts Hotel. Remember standing in the Hotels casino, with Tom Jones standing to my right and a hooker to my left. Interesting week it was!!
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Because Boatmad posted the original notice of this great race I have decided to post here something that we have just sent out to the Race Teams on the Venture Pits Site and by Bulletin. Some of it is contentious but what the hell, I'm too old to worry about that sort of thing anymore.

To All Race Teams:
We have now completed our visits to all of the Venues of Spain and Portugal, including Santander, Sada a Coruna, Cascais, Portimao, Benalmadena Alicante and Barcelona. We are very pleased to be home after having travelled some 2,500 miles in ten days.

Those following the Racing Fleet by road next year will of course travel considerably further than that because they will be driving down from the Channel Ports but whatever, it is an awful lot of driving. The good news is that most of the roads are new, brilliant and very fast.

The road crews need to be aware that some of the main roads are brand new and will not be on your Sat Navs. Make sure you get your Sat Navs right up to date and have a very clear idea of which towns are on your route, or should be.

Without exception, the Venues and Cities are eagerly looking forward to you coming to town both by sea and by road. The race boats and crews can be assured that there's going to be a big welcome when they arrive at every venue. The Venues will never have seen anything like this before and they probably never will again.

We were a bit concerned about the noise of some of the boats so at every venue we were warning them that the petrol boats could be VERY noisy and would that be a problem? Big smiles everywhere, as far as the Venues are concerned the more noise the better, noise equals crowds we were told so bring it on! Big wide eyes when we told them that they would be hearing the big boats coming from five miles out!

We won't bore you with the nitty gritty of each meeting needless to say they were big meetings with some 7 to 10 people round the table each time all hanging on our every word and willing to help with all out requests. A bit different to the UK! We wanted to ensure that the race crews would be looked after when they arrived after many hours out at sea so there will be plenty of cold beer and water waiting for you and plenty of food! We have also ensured that there are showers ready as everyone will be hot, sweaty, tired and probably covered in salt and a hot shower works wonders.

Good moorings everywhere and the fuel problems we were expecting are not too serious. Re-fuelling will always take some time when you have 40 plus boats all wanting a 1,000+ litres but Alan has been checking flow rates at all ports and the availability and where they don't have enough in their tanks they will be getting tankers in to ensure that there is enough of both Petrol and Diesel. Don't lose your Credit Cards, they will want to see them before filling your boats to ensure that you can pay!!

We will of course give you all the info we have found at the next briefing on November 3rd but would just like to add that even in September it is VERY hot, in June it's going to be a scorcher so be prepared for that,

We will be putting up information about each Venue on the web site very shortly which should help some of you.

Every venue has requested a spectacular start and finish line for obvious reasons and we know that certain people here in the U.K will fight that but at the end of the day that's the wish of the Venues so be prepared for some awesome finish lines, one in particular is going to make you take a sharp intake of breath so you had better get your navigation spot on! The Venues will of course try to ensure that the finish area is free from boat spectators but those of you who have finished at Cowes know the problems so you will have to be careful, there will be a considerable number of people watching both on and off the water.

One last thing which is interesting. To date the Race teams have and are investing millions into this great race, we estimate some twenty million, we (all three of us) have invested many thousands of pounds ourselves, The 11 Venues (Cities) are investing many thousands of Euros to handle our visits but our International and National Authorities? Zero.

See you in November at the next briefing at the Southampton Football Stadium, it's going to be even better than the last one!

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Forgive me if this is a stupid question but dock talk at CTC prompts it. Para 1.3 of the CMC regs states that crew can be between min of 2 and max of 6 aboard. Quite clear on numbers aboard at any one time.

By any definition this will be the most gruelling of races physically and in every other way. It has been suggested that some entrants plan to cycle through multiple crews to allow longer individual recuperation periods. Is this encouraged or allowed? i.e. it is the boat that is effectively the entrant and, as long as suitably qualified, multiple crews are permitted to get it to the finishing line?

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Rob,

I'm sure the RYA would answer this one, after all it's them that would be responsible unless the organisers forbid it (and it looks like Mike's OK with it), the only problem is getting enough people qualified to the super marathon rules. I am assuming it's up to the Venture Cup organisers to determine who the winners are - I guess the whole crew?

For the record we are considering a similar thing - anyone fancy a ride? Some contribution towards costs may be required!
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Unfortunately a precedent has been set or rather was set in the RB2008 with the Goldfish Team and I think one or two others but personally I do feel Rob has a point and so we need to find an answer that doesn't rock the boat so to speak.

We just need some time as we have a mountain of work to do right now.
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Unfortunately a precedent has been set or rather was set in the RB2008 with the Goldfish Team and I think one or two others but personally I do feel Rob has a point and so we need to find an answer that doesn't rock the boat so to speak.

We just need some time as we have a mountain of work to do right now.
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Mike,

I needed to know for myself as I am looking at potentially filling the back seats with different crew, the RYA requirements would be and event licence at between £75 and £200 approximately depending on the number of legs, and Sea Survival course and maybe a first aid ticket, we would also need a dunk test in our boat, if they want to get in the front it would require an Advanced Powerboat ticket or Coastal Skipper in addition, the way the trophies are awarded is nothing to do with the RYA according to the Powerboat Racing Manager!
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Without exception, the Venues and Cities are eagerly looking forward to you coming to town both by sea and by road. The race boats and crews can be assured that there's going to be a big welcome when they arrive at every venue. The Venues will never have seen anything like this before and they probably never will again.

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At last the penny might drop with the UK scene

Support crews and there trucks can be as interesting as the race crews to certain members of the public.
Most big motor racing events insist on the American RV's line up in a perfect straight line. They want to see the support trucks
A mate of mine who races even took a jacuzzi to silvestone when he competed in the 24 Brit car race. That got some attention.
Basically the bigger the circus the bigger the publicity will be.

What I love about the French when i've been in the RV is they generally let you park up anywhere if you ask nicely.
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The way the trophies are awarded is nothing to do with the RYA according to the Powerboat Racing Manager!
You are right there Cookee, for once we have total control over what we are doing, a rare situation

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I can't believe how time has gone so quickly. Jon posted up about the chat I had with him in Guildford and about our dream to run this great race in early November 2010.

Almost two years later we have 85% of the race sorted, looks as though we might lose some more teams, probably about five we think but there are still some hovering in the wings. My ego wants 50, realistically we will probably have about 45 - sign of the times, it will still be a great fleet and something not seen since RB2008.

June next year is coming down the line like an express train so those still not wanting to commit just yet had better get their fingers out! This is a once only chance, we won't be doing this one again and it's the Granddady of them all, so many others to look at.

In fact we don't think that it will EVER happen again, the greenies will have taken over the seas within a few years, they nearly have now!
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In fact we don't think that it will EVER happen again, the greenies will have taken over the seas within a few years, they nearly have now!
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Maybe you should talk to your colleagues about the series of races planned in the future then .............
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Maybe you should talk to your colleagues about the series of races planned in the future then .............
Are you saying there is going to be a series of Cowes to Monte Carlo races
or do you not read whats written.
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Are you saying there is going to be a series of Cowes to Monte Carlo races
or do you not read whats written.
As I understand the PR from the presentations this is the first of a series of races at least one of which is planned from Cowes:
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As I understand the PR from the presentations this is the first of a series of races at least one of which is planned from Cowes:
This thread is about the C-T-MC

and what part of the post refered to other races
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Sitting here with a half-drunk bottle of Henry Westons in Mike's back garden, so I'm relatively well placed (at least until the remainder of the bottle is consumed) to confirm that there will be future Venture Cups, as previously stated. What Mike was referring to was purely the historical significance of the CMC route. Future races may also reflect historic routes, or entirely new challenges, but the point of reassurance here is that there will 100% be Venture Cup 2 .....3 .....etc.
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