Cowes to Monte-Carlo 2013

[wickedtopspeed]

25 knots is a good force 6 by my reckoning - it does not seem unreasonable to have that as a abandonment point, remember this is a long distance offshore event with self sufficiency a key requisit, rather than an inshore 3 mile round the buoys contest.

Originally Posted by Mikko Oikari

Absolutely ridiculous with the 25 knot limit...
Would really like to see that in writing from the insurance company.

[still no worries]

To be fair if I had a 2 ton 30 foot + powerboat 25 knots is a joke , it could be a mistake they probably ment 35 knots.
(I hope they have all got good trailers, they are going to need them)

[wss]

I am not sure why the RYA have right to over see this race at all out side of UK waters

The part of the ocean adjacent to the coast of a state that is considered to be part of the territory of that state and subject to its sovereignty. In International Law

this race will only run in UK waters for the 1st leg.
maybe some one can tell me why the RYA have the right to do this ??

[CB1]

So you will penalise the smaller craft which maybe are not able to handle the conditions as much? I think force 5/6 is a good cut off point having been in a life raft in those sort of conditions.

[Barrie Williams]

Originally Posted by Mikko Oikari

Absolutely ridiculous with the 25 knot limit...
Would really like to see that in writing from the insurance company.

Mikko has a really good point regarding the insurance conditions, but don't just ask for it in writing; under FSA rules you can demand a meeting with the underwriters to discuss the reasons and inputs for the premium and it's conditions. £35k is a substantial insurance sum and requires accordingly due diligence before agreement.

[wss]

Originally Posted by Barrie Williams

Mikko has a really good point regarding the insurance conditions, but don't just ask for it in writing; under FSA rules you can demand a meeting with the underwriters to discuss the reasons and inputs for the premium and it's conditions. £35k is a substantial insurance sum and requires accordingly due diligence before agreement.

OK so what is the insurance for and what doze it cover not the boats that for sure. And if the wind hits over 25kts on the way then what ??? no insurance ?? good get out were did £35000 come from ??? for what ??.

[Mikko Oikari]

"Max level is now set at 25 kts, this is applicable to the following race legs: 1-2-3-4-6-7 and 10."

So leg 5, the longest 320 Nm leg out in the Atlantic, is not included??

[Salty Balls]

Originally Posted by Mikko Oikari

"Max level is now set at 25 kts, this is applicable to the following race legs: 1-2-3-4-6-7 and 10."

So leg 5, the longest 320 Nm leg out in the Atlantic, is not included??

If I remember correctly from what John said at the Portsmouth Powwow, the other legs had a 20 knot limit.

So: What ever You do on race day - don't fart in the morning

[Red-Leader]

As an outsider looking in, and just for my curiosity.
Say the leg is postponed due to the conditions (whatever that reason is) Do the boats sit and wait for the right conditions or are they then transported to the next venue ?
Cheers
R-L

[Carl]

i would think transported to the next venue,like rb08. i would also think there is alot of scratching of heads at the moment,and behind the scenes phone calls, good luck to all

[CB1]

Knowing the police forces in Europe.. They aint going to be too happy with upto 50 boats on trailers, in convoy, running on their roads. Have plenty of euros with you!!!!!

[Cookee]

Originally Posted by wss

I am not sure why the RYA have right to over see this race at all out side of UK waters

The part of the ocean adjacent to the coast of a state that is considered to be part of the territory of that state and subject to its sovereignty. In International Law

this race will only run in UK waters for the 1st leg.
maybe some one can tell me why the RYA have the right to do this ??

British organising club .......

Salty - I think he said it was a 20 or 25 knot limit - no restrictions for the other legs? Up to the OOD?

Red Leader - The boats will be expected to arrive at each venue on a certain date leaving no option but road travel.

[Red-Leader]

I guess that could mean that the large boats will need an escort vehicle also.
Blimey there better be some serious praying to the weather gods.

Hope all you guys can resolve the issues as its going to be fantastic.
Good luck
R-L

[Mike Lloyd]

Originally Posted by Mikko Oikari

"Max level is now set at 25 kts, this is applicable to the following race legs: 1-2-3-4-6-7 and 10."

So leg 5, the longest 320 Nm leg out in the Atlantic, is not included??

There is no rhyme or reason to some of the RYA restrictions Mikko, even local rules such as the Spanish Decree to which we have agreed with the Spanish Embassy and all Harbour Masters are no where near as restrictive and this applies to the Portuguese and French!
ML.

[deerhound]

5. All competitors to send copies of their racing CVs to the RYA by end of December 2012, Shirley advised that 30 November was deadline but we are happy to wait till end December

Having spoken with Nicola Drummond today, she told me to wait until january, as they didnt know what the fees would be.

[deerhound]

I have just had contact from Nicola again. Applications will not be out until January, but CV's can and should still be submitted in the meantime for the given deadlines. Looks like I got the wrong end of the stick...but understood now, thanks Nicola.

[Monkey]

Originally Posted by wickedtopspeed

25 knots is a good force 6 by my reckoning - it does not seem unreasonable to have that as a abandonment point, remember this is a long distance offshore event with self sufficiency a key requisit, rather than an inshore 3 mile round the buoys contest.

Surely the impact of a 25 + knot wind would depend on direction of wind. A Northerly wind of that speed in my neck of the woods is totally different to a South Westerly wind? Is that not why the OOD of any other race will look at sea conditions irrespective of wind?

[bigdog v2]

Well said Monkey And can i take my camper truck lorry and trailer and
the works truck plus the spare crew as well

[bigdog v2]

O and the tank

[Safety]

Originally Posted by wss

I am not sure why the RYA have right to over see this race at all out side of UK waters

The part of the ocean adjacent to the coast of a state that is considered to be part of the territory of that state and subject to its sovereignty. In International Law

this race will only run in UK waters for the 1st leg.
maybe some one can tell me why the RYA have the right to do this ??

Because someone thinks they have the right to decide everything. And his employers let him behave like he does.