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09-06-2009, 08:26 PM
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Cig crash
Can anyone tell me what happened out there?
Did they done too tight turn or something??
There is no wake anywhere
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09-06-2009, 08:53 PM
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Senior Member
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Impressive how many people went to the boat with little interest in the guys that fell out !
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National Outboard Immersed Propeller Mono Record 103mph
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09-06-2009, 08:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike_G
Can anyone tell me what happened out there?
Did they done too tight turn or something??
There is no wake anywhere
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which has just proved that money is no measurement of brains 
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09-06-2009, 09:21 PM
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Amateurs,posing,no kill switches,thats what happened.
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09-06-2009, 09:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OCRDA
Impressive how many people went to the boat with little interest in the guys that fell out !
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SALVAGE!
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09-06-2009, 09:38 PM
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the driver was lucky it beached,
you know the thing about going in circles,
you end up back where you started!!!
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09-06-2009, 09:47 PM
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Lucky no clued up git with a line was around aswell. 
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10-06-2009, 06:28 PM
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He had it coming if you ask me :S Whats wrong with using the killswitch??
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10-06-2009, 07:42 PM
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He had it coming if you ask me :S Whats wrong with using the killswitch??
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It would appear that some people are allergic to them!
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10-06-2009, 08:07 PM
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... sundowner anyone ?
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... looks like an europeanwide contest
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11-06-2009, 07:26 AM
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Its due a stepped bottem,first you see the back slide away ,and then the back gets grip and breaks hard ,thus throwing the people out .
Probably trimmed wrong position,and too tight cornering
There are more stepped bottems doing this ,also at higher speeds ,when fully trimmed in on a stepper ,the driveangle pushes upward,to lift the stern,and while the steps taking care of an aerated surface under the bottem it can be slippery while cornering ,some steppers can be turned with level or little positive trim to avoid this
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11-06-2009, 08:05 AM
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 Jeez, you're so vague!
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11-06-2009, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by sterling
Its due a stepped bottem,first you see the back slide away ,and then the back gets grip and breaks hard ,thus throwing the people out .
Probably trimmed wrong position,and too tight cornering
There are more stepped bottems doing this ,also at higher speeds ,when fully trimmed in on a stepper ,the driveangle pushes upward,to lift the stern,and while the steps taking care of an aerated surface under the bottem it can be slippery while cornering ,some steppers can be turned with level or little positive trim to avoid this
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The Americans have been blaming this behaviour on stepped bottoms for a while, but boats have been throwing people out since they first went on the plane!
Ps steps don't aerate the surface, the reduce drag by reducing the wetted area.
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11-06-2009, 01:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cookee
Ps steps don't aerate the surface, the reduce drag by reducing the wetted area.
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you sure on that one cookee?
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11-06-2009, 01:23 PM
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BananaShark Member
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Quote:
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you sure on that one cookee?
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Don't take my word for it ask someone like Adam who designs the things!
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11-06-2009, 05:51 PM
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You can take my word for it .
About 1 min 40 seconds in the video
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11-06-2009, 10:02 PM
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BananaShark Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sterling
You can take my word for it .
About 1 min 40 seconds in the video
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Well I wouldn't want to argue with medallion man!
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12-06-2009, 07:02 AM
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Senior Member
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After all, he builds the fastest ,safest ,and best handling boats in the world.
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12-06-2009, 08:16 AM
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STEVE BAKER would probably argue that point.
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12-06-2009, 10:10 AM
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Unfortunately he wouldn't win that argument not having built for a few years now.
Would have been interesting to see how he would have developed his designs if he were a little younger.
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