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Originally posted by Cookee
(Phantom engine cover?)
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Wrong
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30-04-2004, 09:01 AM
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not your BOATMAD HAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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30-04-2004, 09:42 AM
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Originally posted by Cookee
Missus - there is a clue in my post above!
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I think you'll find it was an extreme hatch (quite clearly too extreme) in this case.the ginger do-nut muncher lifted the hatch ever so slightly on a kilo run at Windermere trying to eek out the full speed of the boat, which to be fair needs all the help it can get with those two grown up do-nut munchers.but Fuller did not think his plan all the way through because guess what it blew off , imagine that!
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30-04-2004, 09:52 AM
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Right part wrong make! Ah well!
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30-04-2004, 10:03 AM
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Strewth!!!! I thought for a minnit there might have been reconstructive surgery...
Oul T might go diving for that hatch if it's worth salvaging...
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30-04-2004, 11:34 AM
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numbskull
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Twozent a kilo run knobjockey!
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30-04-2004, 09:19 PM
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well why dont you give us the full and correct details of the incident .
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30-04-2004, 11:46 PM
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numbskull
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I did, but you weren't a member then.
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02-05-2004, 01:45 AM
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Re: Re: Stuffing
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Originally posted by jon fuller
Not a really bad one no, but had the top off a few bign's at speed and that's enough to give you a taster of just how nasty and dangerous a proper stuff is(and I don't mean a little spray over the front), even just taking the top off a wave at 70 is like someone hitting you in the face with a cricket bat, also seen a few pals get it wrong and noted their reaction 'post event', and remember, a 60mph stuff can easily kill you (Brass Willcoxon 1990).
Stuffing and hooking (been there a few times) are two places I don't like going.
Steves earlier boats such as the original 23 were a bit more prone to stuffing if not driven hard, but I think it's fair to say most of his designs, especially the later ones are pretty safe.
All just MHO.
PS. I'll try to find some good footage of some classic stuffs at the weekend and post some short video clips.
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OK, I've uploaded a couple of very short video clips to show why I'm weary of "stuffing".
many who frequent this site probably think of stuffing their boat as, rolling down the back of a big wave in a following sea at 15mph and getting a bit wet, some of the stranger members (ribers) think it's fun! But if you're travelling at anything over 50mph, it can be a horrible thing.
these two clips (one normal speed, one in slomo) are of a phantom 18 OCR boat which had already had a very bad stuff, and Steve baker had refused to repair it as the structures had been destroyed through much hard racing, followed by the first major stuff, the owners decided to repair it themselves anyway, ignoring Steves words. Just a few weeks later, whilst racing in Cowes (2000 I think) the driver got things a little wrong and stuffed it good and proper travelling at about 75mph, the video speaks for itself. The driver was not the owner, he had borrowed the boat!
normal speed
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PS. the boat was totally destroyed.
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02-05-2004, 01:57 AM
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02-05-2004, 08:13 AM
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Ouch.
In general.
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02-05-2004, 09:42 AM
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75 to 0 in how many yards?
What would that boat weigh, Jon?
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02-05-2004, 09:55 AM
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BananaShark Member
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That one probably weighed about 700 kilos + fuel!
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02-05-2004, 10:02 AM
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Imagine doing that in a bat boat ...V thingy...
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02-05-2004, 10:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by jackeen's Missus
Imagine doing that in a bat boat ...V thingy...
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02-05-2004, 11:01 AM
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Wow.
I must admit i am becoming attracted to Hardboats anms cyco's new boat looks wicked! ( in the true sense of the word)
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02-05-2004, 11:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Rogue Wave
Wow.
I must admit i am becoming attracted to Hardboats...
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After watchin' that... you're nuts!
The Boss got a dry mouth just lookin' at it!
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03-05-2004, 02:01 PM
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numbskull
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Quote:
Originally posted by jw.
After watchin' that... you're nuts!
The Boss got a dry mouth just lookin' at it!
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Yeah, that couldn't possibly happen to a rib!......
you guys crack me up!....blind faith or what.
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03-05-2004, 02:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Matt
What is the last point at which the driver could have recovered the situation? By the time the arse end landed after getting air, woz it way too late? One assumes the sphincter muscle was leaking by then and he backed off the throttle, but if he'd kept the switch in the on position, could (not would) this have helped raise the bow enough?
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Funnily enough, Steve Baker said the exact same thing, you can see the brakes come on, and the trip begin, when the lower unit drags, unpowered on the first touchdown....keep yer feckin foot down!
got some other footage of Ian Stirling from an onboard camera losing his helmet (ouch) during a far less serious stuff, in fact he only really took the top off one.
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