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11-11-2009, 04:06 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
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Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cookee
Do they come in a marinised package?
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Yes, that one was straight from Marine Diesel in Sweden, but they haven't proved terribly good in the performance department.
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11-11-2009, 07:49 PM
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#122
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Fuller
Yes, that one was straight from Marine Diesel in Sweden, but they haven't proved terribly good in the performance department.
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Is that the motors Garmin ran
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11-11-2009, 08:02 PM
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Registered User
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Location: Weston Super Mare
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Fuller
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like the comments on the video
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13-11-2009, 02:16 PM
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Fuller
Yes, that one was straight from Marine Diesel in Sweden, but they haven't proved terribly good in the performance department.
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Ah yes! Never mind .....................
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14-11-2009, 07:28 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hunton69
Is that the motors Garmin ran
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na, they were the 6.6 litre Duramax built by GM/Isuzu
these are the 6.5 litre AM General motors, same block as I have in my 28.
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18-11-2009, 09:57 PM
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Registered User
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Location: Exeter
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Dropped in on Cookee today to see how his project is developing. Seems they have a lot of cool ideas and really impressed with the set up they have there. Keep up the good work
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21-11-2009, 03:02 PM
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#127
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Registered User
Country: SOUTH WEST UK
Location: WESTON SUPER MARE
Occupation: MERCEDES SALESMAN
Interests: POWER BOAT RACING
Boat name: BIG AIR
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Engines: 200XS
Cruising area: BRISTOL CHANNEL
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Supercharged-Turbo Diesels Engine Size ?
Has anyone got any other ideas as to what diesel would be best? The class E is a 6.5 litre total limit with the next class up being 10 litre, and the one beyond that being 13 litre, although we would need a bigger boat for that class I think!
Happy to consider anything, but power to weight is the critical factor as well as reliability.
Thanks![/QUOTE]
Just bored at work and reading PB1 does the above engine max capacity take into consideration Rule E17 'E' 'Diesel engine if Turbo or Supercharged the cylinder capacity to be multiplied by 1.4'.Interestingly it makes no mention of Spercharging Gas engines,I might be me reading this rule completely out of context but thought it worth a mention as Marathon Rules now under PB1 I believe.Nic
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21-11-2009, 04:04 PM
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#128
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
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Boat name: Leviathan
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No, capacities are for normally aspirated petrol motors, and forced induction diesel motors.
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06-12-2009, 09:37 AM
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#129
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Registered User
Country: england
Location: southampton
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Boat make: scorpion 8.1
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I see theres a 295hp Steyr motor listed on their web site.... Nearly same capacity and weight as the 250hps.... ANy good?
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07-12-2009, 09:08 AM
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#130
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's
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Quote:
Originally Posted by glen76
I see theres a 295hp Steyr motor listed on their web site.... Nearly same capacity and weight as the 250hps.... ANy good?
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When I was considering Steyrs, I think that one is set up for jets? Not sure if it's that one or the 280hp?
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07-12-2009, 06:51 PM
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#131
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Registered User
Country: england
Location: southampton
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Arre the marinised BMW motors as good at chucking bits of nuts/bolts and plastic into the inlet manifolds as the car ones, Should you buy one please ask about swirl flaps... a common problem in the cars
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08-12-2009, 09:06 AM
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#132
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Salcombe South Devon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by glen76
Arre the marinised BMW motors as good at chucking bits of nuts/bolts and plastic into the inlet manifolds as the car ones, Should you buy one please ask about swirl flaps... a common problem in the cars
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Nor sure but they have a different turbo and some other alterations - it has a wastegate whereas the car engine has variable turbo or something?
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28-12-2009, 09:21 PM
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#133
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Registered User
Country: SOUTH WEST UK
Location: WESTON SUPER MARE
Occupation: MERCEDES SALESMAN
Interests: POWER BOAT RACING
Boat name: BIG AIR
Boat make: PHANTOM 19
Engines: 200XS
Cruising area: BRISTOL CHANNEL
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Arneson Drives
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cookee
Just to update this thread a little - here are a couple of images of where we are at right now - I have sent drawings off for windscreen quotes, it will be the same screen for the 3/4 cockpit and open versions.
We also have a choice of power between the Yanmar 3 litre 260hp and the slightly more powerful and bigger cc Steyr 3.2 litre 280hp, both with Arneson ASD 6 drives.
There is an opportunity to join the team - see this thread http://www.boatmad.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13829
It will still be a racer cruiser with a V berth, small chemical heads/bucket and a small galley with a sink and cooker for making tea - all removable for racing of course! See the layout below.
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Some Arneson drives advertised for sale on Offshore only-not sure if any good but thought worth a mention,Nic
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29-12-2009, 08:40 AM
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#134
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Salcombe South Devon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NIC SURRY
Some Arneson drives advertised for sale on Offshore only-not sure if any good but thought worth a mention,Nic
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Already got a pair of ASD6's thanks!
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