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13-09-2010, 11:06 PM
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Found in the attic
From the 1971 CTC.
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14-09-2010, 08:59 AM
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Ctc 71
Interesting to note that the sea state off Hurst looked pretty grim,more so than 2010,which fiqures ,being as it ended up reaching force 9 by the afternoon.Lyme Bay must have been out of this world in those conditions.
41 Starters,10 Finishers ,plus 2 out of time.
Winner - Lady Nara -38.4 mph
10th oa - Gee - 24 mph.
When you think `Snoopy` the 27ft Magnum finished in those conditions (they took a large wave which smashed the windscreen,and left a large fish floundering in the cockpit),it must rate as one of the most heroic drives,other than Psychedlic Surfer (21ft rib) going Round Britain in 69,doing some pretty bad legs.
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14-09-2010, 09:10 AM
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Lady Arran (Highland Fling) punching her way through off Hurst in CTC 71.
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14-09-2010, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Catweazle
From the 1971 CTC.
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Brilliant pix Graham !
That was really rough - I remember being by The RYS & at the finish as they carried Ronnie Bonelli ashore & into The Gloster Hotel, to recover.
The winning boat being alongside a barge off The Parade in those days.
Good to see Prawn Cocktail/Snoopy pic, & to see her again this year at Cowes.
That boat prooved you could, at that time, race on the cheap - I heard that the Ford 400hp V8 was marinised from one taken from a Ford Galaxy in a scrap-yard.
Any more pix in yr attic ?
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14-09-2010, 10:06 AM
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Brilliant pix Graham !
That was really rough - I remember being by The RYS & at the finish as they carried Ronnie Bonelli ashore & into The Gloster Hotel, to recover.
The winning boat being alongside a barge off The Parade in those days.
Good to see Prawn Cocktail/Snoopy pic, & to see her again this year at Cowes.
That boat prooved you could, at that time, race on the cheap - I heard that the Ford 400hp V8 was marinised from one taken from a Ford Galaxy in a scrap-yard.
Any more pix in yr attic ?
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Once you go up into the attic,you tend not to come down in a hurry.
BTW Martin,those Prawn Cocktail details you mention apply to 044,not 260 Snoopy (CTC 71 finisher).Prawn Cocktail was called Snoopy in 1969.
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14-09-2010, 02:17 PM
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From my attic,supporting the documentation of the CTC 1971.
Bonelli, the pain that tries to leave his cockpit accused fracture of ribs.
Note the double steering for Petroni in the centre and Bonelli.
It was a very useful solution in this race when after a heavy blow into a wave Bonelli and mechanic Franco Statua literally flew out of the cockpit and both remained semiconscious.
Petroni was able to catch the two and drag them into the respectives cockpits before resuming the race... alone.
Then the two resumed forces before the finish.
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14-09-2010, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYING FISH
Once you go up into the attic,you tend not to come down in a hurry.
BTW Martin,those Prawn Cocktail details you mention apply to 044,not 260 Snoopy (CTC 71 finisher).Prawn Cocktail was called Snoopy in 1969.
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Yes, I realise that.
One was Souter built, which was the one I commented on.(044)red with light blue deck.
The other was George Green's (?) American one with a small cabin (260), maroon & white.
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14-09-2010, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Black_Tornado
From my attic,supporting the documentation of the CTC 1971.
Bonelli, the pain that tries to leave his cockpit accused fracture of ribs.
Note the double steering for Petroni in the centre and Bonelli.
It was a very useful solution in this race when after a heavy blow into a wave Bonelli and mechanic Franco Statua literally flew out of the cockpit and both remained semiconscious.
Petroni was able to catch the two and drag them into the respectives cockpits before resuming the race... alone.
Then the two resumed forces before the finish.
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Memories, Memories !
I assume that The Commander is now no longer with us, are the other two gentlemen still "out & about" Sir ?
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14-09-2010, 06:02 PM
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An interesting Formula
Does anyone know what happened to UFO?
She is seen here in '71 with the race no. 65 and was later called (I think) UFO Up Front..
Most people will, of course, remember her with Tim Powell's race no. 123, several appearances at Cowes and for being a front-runner (and finishing 2nd) in the 1969 Round Britain.
Before that she had a cabin and appeared as "Thunderbird".
Would be interesting to know if she's still around...
Thanks for the pictures John.
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14-09-2010, 10:55 PM
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The pics came from a friend whos father was photo mad.interesting story ,he was a spitfire pilot and flew sunderlands.He was tasked to fly from portland bill to selsey bill each day and photograph key areas for damage reports.There is a great pic of Southsea fun fare from low level with people waving to him,another of camper and Nicholsons at Gosport when they owned most of the sea frontage.
He became well known as a pilot and many of his collection of pics are in the imperial war musuem.
I got very excited when i heard about his pic collection,there is rumoured to be more of powerboats but he is no longer with us and his wife has been through lots and found those few.So we wait with baited breath.there is a possabilty they went in a large box to imp musuem along with the many aircraft pics ,if so i guess there lost but we can live in hope.cw.
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15-09-2010, 08:22 AM
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1969 Souter Scrutineering
Horatia sandwiched between Spirit of Ecstacy and some old green magnum that`s languishing in Leatherhead.
You can spot old Nigel Tuncliffe a mile away,standing on the aft deck of Horatia,chest out,as befits an ex-Guardsman.When he was Shipyard Manager for a time at Vosper,he used to strut through the boatshop in that peaked cap of his,whilst us apprentices would chuck bits of dowelling at him to try and knock it off.Wonderful!
Also in the pic is Ken Raybould to the right of the `Martech` man.
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15-09-2010, 08:24 AM
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One for Marco
1974?
What race?
Petroni on deck with Cosentino in cockpit?
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15-09-2010, 09:18 PM
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[QUOTE=FLYING FISH;189861]Horatia sandwiched between Spirit of Ecstacy and some old green magnum that`s languishing in Leatherhead.
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Many thanks for the pic,i couldnt believe my eyes.apart from brief moments in the films of the races i have never seen another pic,great story.looks like the life ring i have is the wrong colour must visit the swindlery.also notice some of the varnish i have is as i suspected suposed to be painted.I also notice the red duster ,he usually flew the white ensign.Fenders tied to the handrail even though the rings were fitted as standard pilot boat.these rings were removed sometime during its life.If only there was a picture of the coachroof
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15-09-2010, 09:35 PM
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1974?
What race?
Petroni on deck with Cosentino in cockpit?
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Viareggio 1974. Cosentino was with Petroni and almost immediately retired with mechanical problems. I wonder where you found this photo.
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16-09-2010, 06:44 AM
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Viareggio 1974. Cosentino was with Petroni and almost immediately retired with mechanical problems. I wonder where you found this photo.
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Taken from a Polaroid pic laying around the Shead office.
If the attached pic was `Sir Cat` raced in 71 & 73,do you know what the hull was in the 74 pic also called `Sir Cat`.
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16-09-2010, 08:39 AM
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Horatia sandwiched between Spirit of Ecstacy and some old green magnum that`s languishing in Leatherhead
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Can't beat a good languish...
There we were, just "lolling-about"... but no, "let's go for the full-on languish", I said..
Might have to give you a (very small) progress report, if you're not careful. That is if I can be bothered!
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16-09-2010, 10:59 AM
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Can't beat a good languish...
There we were, just "lolling-about"... but no, "let's go for the full-on languish", I said..
Might have to give you a (very small) progress report, if you're not careful. That is if I can be bothered!
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Wot,like made a model to con the masses.Nah,I`ve seen that one.Just you carry on languishing,until the frost and biting winds start before you proceed further.Been there,done that!
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16-09-2010, 11:48 AM
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Horatia sandwiched between Spirit of Ecstacy and some old green magnum that`s languishing in Leatherhead.
You can spot old Nigel Tuncliffe a mile away,standing on the aft deck of Horatia,chest out,as befits an ex-Guardsman.When he was Shipyard Manager for a time at Vosper,he used to strut through the boatshop in that peaked cap of his,whilst us apprentices would chuck bits of dowelling at him to try and knock it off.Wonderful!
Also in the pic is Ken Raybould to the right of the `Martech` man.
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Cor ! Those were the days Graham.
Waiting to see how much BELOW the water the pontoon could sink before Tony Needell called "Every One Off ! "
I was there from '67 until the move to CYH in, I think, '73.
Thereafter, you needed a pass - Thank you to the gent at the 'Express who I always obtained one from !
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16-09-2010, 11:51 AM
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Taken from a Polaroid pic laying around the Shead office.
If the attached pic was `Sir Cat` raced in 71 & 73,do you know what the hull was in the 74 pic also called `Sir Cat`.
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Two different boats. The first "Sir Cat" for Cosentino was a 33' built in alluminium and raced in 1971-72 with a sister boat named Nicopao for Mondadori and Bonelli. Trimming design.
Then was built a second "Sir Cat" but in fiberglass in 1973. That in the Polaroid beauty pic. I think was 38' long.
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16-09-2010, 02:16 PM
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Really from the attic this copy of a pic of the "Sir Cat" in 1980 spring.
After seeing the performance of the Cougar Cat of Betty Cook in Venice in 1979 Cosentino wanted to give a last chance to his old cat and to himself.
With Petroni he recovered from the dust the old "Sir Cat" in fiberglass and they attempted changes.
It was thought that the boat originally had been with little performance because very heavy of an internal structure consisting of hardening lattice of aluminum tubes that were in an internal skeleton both in the sponsons that in the wing.
I do not remember if all these tubes were cut off or if they were left some considered fundamental to the structural characteristics.
The central cockpit was stripped of every component and closed by a thin sheet of aluminum.
Cockpits were created in the two sponsons in a advanced position as were those characteristic of the Kaama and also the fairings was created by the CUV in style of those in the Cook's cat.
The boat so modified made sea trials but did not give the response expected and the project was abandoned and relinquished Cosentino run in 1980 and forever.
That "Sir Cat" that I had admired as a boy from the beach run 'fast' along the shore line, was my first offshore boat on which I worked and I remember that was a unique feeling to stand on it the first time.
A feeling immediately destroyed by the harsh reality of the changes to which he was subjected and which I was instructed to perform.
The worst of that tasks was to clear the name of the boat from both sides.
I found it pointless and offensive even though I was ordered for superstitious reasons(Italians).
Job then to hurry to put the boat in the water I could not complete as you can see in the pic.
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