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16-03-2010, 02:31 AM
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Registered User
Country: Ireland
Location: Dublin
Occupation: Boatbuilder
Boat make: Hydrostream V-king, 650SS OCR ,Ring 21, Ring 18, Phantom 18.
Engines: 300Hp Mercury 2.4, 130 Yamaha, Bridgeport EFI, XR6, Merc 200.
Cruising area: Malahide, Dublin
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Dublin
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Lightweight 21 SportCat
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16-03-2010, 08:11 AM
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Country: Germany
Location: South Germany
Boat make: P21
Cruising area: Rhine
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: South Germany
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Awesome, Alan.  It will be more than just quick with such an engine, that's for sure. Please keep me informed about the test results, mate. 
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16-03-2010, 08:59 AM
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Nice one Alan ....gotta get a run on one of these soon 
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16-03-2010, 09:07 AM
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Posts: 4,638
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hydrostream
Just putting the finishing touches to another 21 SportCat, a light weight raceboat.
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What class is that going to race in?
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British Champions! RIB Formula 1 2005
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16-03-2010, 10:46 AM
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Registered User
Country: Ireland
Location: Dublin
Occupation: Boatbuilder
Boat make: Hydrostream V-king, 650SS OCR ,Ring 21, Ring 18, Phantom 18.
Engines: 300Hp Mercury 2.4, 130 Yamaha, Bridgeport EFI, XR6, Merc 200.
Cruising area: Malahide, Dublin
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Dublin
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Although we're not rigging the boat, I will certainly be going out to test this boat, will keep you informed Paddy. Cheers mate
Blimp, will be in Galway in April for the CPB rally, you bringing the Tcats?
Cookie, not sure of the class, the boat is being shipped overseas.
Whats the min weight on 3C?
Alan
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16-03-2010, 11:15 AM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
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Doesn't it have to be canopied for 3C? (Multihull)
Not sure they'd allow a tuned 300 either! ( Unless you're Italian.  )
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16-03-2010, 11:30 AM
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's
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Location: Salcombe South Devon
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Agree with Jon, that's why I asked - it wouldn't fit any class I have heard of - I think at 21' it may be a bit short and as Jon says end up light without ballast even if it had the right motor on the back!
Having said that it sounds like it will be quick!
Is it a secret as to its destination?
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British Champions! RIB Formula 1 2005
National Speed Record Holder at 90.15 (still)
www.bananasharkracing.com
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16-03-2010, 11:46 AM
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@ Alan - yup we're bringing the thundercats to the Corrib alright ...might have a few additions by then as well!
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16-03-2010, 12:30 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cookee
Having said that it sounds like it will be quick!
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I would think 'very, very' quick.
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17-03-2010, 05:58 AM
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Registered User
Country: Ireland
Location: Dublin
Occupation: Boatbuilder
Boat make: Hydrostream V-king, 650SS OCR ,Ring 21, Ring 18, Phantom 18.
Engines: 300Hp Mercury 2.4, 130 Yamaha, Bridgeport EFI, XR6, Merc 200.
Cruising area: Malahide, Dublin
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Location: Dublin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cookee
Agree with Jon, that's why I asked - it wouldn't fit any class I have heard of - I think at 21' it may be a bit short and as Jon says end up light without ballast even if it had the right motor on the back!
Having said that it sounds like it will be quick!
Is it a secret as to its destination?
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Cookie, this boat is not intended for 3C, I was actually just curious to the min weight of a 3C boat. If it would measure I might give it a go in the future.
I'm not certain of the class the boat races in but it's not a European class, that's all I can really say. The customer has asked for discretion until their season begins.
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17-03-2010, 08:55 AM
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Country: Guernsey
Occupation: Engineering
Boat make: None, boo!
Engines: Turbines mainly!
Cruising area: The inside of my workshop!
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I rekon it's for a yank, maybe they onlywanted it light to save on shipping!
Should be great when it's done!
James
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17-03-2010, 09:57 AM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
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Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
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Location: South
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Quote:
Originally Posted by larby
I rekon it's for a yank
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Wouldn't that be like "Sending Coal to Newcastle"?
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17-03-2010, 10:04 AM
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Salcombe South Devon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hydrostream
Cookie, this boat is not intended for 3C, I was actually just curious to the min weight of a 3C boat. If it would measure I might give it a go in the future.
I'm not certain of the class the boat races in but it's not a European class, that's all I can really say. The customer has asked for discretion until their season begins.
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Well the 21 Phantom only just measures for Class III and that is with our special anti stuff nose - so I think it may be a bit close.
I don't have the rules handy, but if it was a foot longer it would stand a better chance!
Bermuda?
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British Champions! RIB Formula 1 2005
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17-03-2010, 11:20 AM
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Senior Member
Country: UK
Location: Devon
Occupation: Garage Proprietor
Interests: PowerBoat Racing
Boat name: If Only
Boat make: Bernico F3 OCR, Bernico Prototype Inboard, and some Ribs
Engines: Yamaha Pro V 115
Cruising area: UK, France
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Devon
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Or Malta !!
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National Outboard Immersed Propeller Mono Record 103mph
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17-03-2010, 08:53 PM
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Le Cat
Country: France
Location: Paris
Occupation: Computer Sales
Boat name: Le Cat
Boat make: Argo Cat 18
Engines: Mercury 2.4EFI
Cruising area: Paris
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Paris
Posts: 753
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UIM 2010 rules in Class III EPA call for 6,5m minimum length
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18-03-2010, 03:43 AM
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Registered User
Country: Ireland
Location: Dublin
Occupation: Boatbuilder
Boat make: Hydrostream V-king, 650SS OCR ,Ring 21, Ring 18, Phantom 18.
Engines: 300Hp Mercury 2.4, 130 Yamaha, Bridgeport EFI, XR6, Merc 200.
Cruising area: Malahide, Dublin
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Dublin
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Larby, shipping weight wouldn't matter until above 20 tones.
It's not Bermuda, although we do get quite a few inquiries from there and this ones not going to Malta 
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18-03-2010, 09:07 PM
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Registered User
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Fuller
Wouldn't that be like "Sending Coal to Newcastle"?
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I did think that! Does anyone in the states still make them though?
How are the sportcats made anyhoo? Are they from an original mould, or are they a legal splash?
Lovely boats, wish I could afford one of those to race in!
Hang on a minute, that could be coming over here... there's people with the money, and our classes would allow it... would be very competitive in reasonable weather!
James
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19-03-2010, 12:33 PM
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Registered User
Country: Guernsey
Occupation: Postie
Interests: Heavy Heavy Metal
Boat name: Slayer II, Slayer, Pen15
Boat make: Phantom 19G-R, Bernico F2 Extreme, Ring 15
Engines: Evinrude 115HO, Yam 90
Cruising area: Channel Islands
Join Date: Aug 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by larby
I did think that! Does anyone in the states still make them though?
How are the sportcats made anyhoo? Are they from an original mould, or are they a legal splash?
Lovely boats, wish I could afford one of those to race in!
Hang on a minute, that could be coming over here... there's people with the money, and our classes would allow it... would be very competitive in reasonable weather!
James
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I think it would be more than competitive, it would dominate if the conditions were flat!
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19-03-2010, 01:38 PM
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Registered User
Location: West Coast of Norway
Occupation: naval architect
Interests: surface piercing props, stepped hulls, air entrapment hulls
Boat name: none
Boat make: PetterTintorera
Engines: Yamaha 90
Cruising area: West Coast of Norway
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: West Coast of Norway
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Quote:
Originally Posted by larby
I did think that! Does anyone in the states still make them though?
How are the sportcats made anyhoo? Are they from an original mould, or are they a legal splash?
Lovely boats, wish I could afford one of those to race in!
Hang on a minute, that could be coming over here... there's people with the money, and our classes would allow it... would be very competitive in reasonable weather!
James
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Was it based on a Skater?
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20-03-2010, 02:46 AM
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Registered User
Country: Ireland
Location: Dublin
Occupation: Boatbuilder
Boat make: Hydrostream V-king, 650SS OCR ,Ring 21, Ring 18, Phantom 18.
Engines: 300Hp Mercury 2.4, 130 Yamaha, Bridgeport EFI, XR6, Merc 200.
Cruising area: Malahide, Dublin
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Dublin
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Larby, it's not going your way. Yes, Extreme still build a 21 in Florida and Trick are still around I think!
Our moulds are the ex-Lightning Powerboats moulds.
Paul, the conditions wouldn't need to be too flat. The SportCat runs very well in the rough when set up for it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scand
Was it based on a Skater?
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Yes it is based on a Skater 21 with a modified bottom, some slight deck changes and a new liner.
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