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30-09-2005, 03:45 PM
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Registered User
Country: Job Centre
Location: In a box
Occupation: Chaos's gofer
Interests: Skiving
Boat make: Spectre 30
Engines: 2 x Promax 225
Cruising area: In the bath
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: In a box
Posts: 5,201
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If anyone is desperate to find out, I've got one they can buy!
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01-10-2005, 08:57 AM
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Registered User
Country: uk
Location: surrey
Occupation: Railway staff
Boat make: P23, P21, R20, RingRanger 25, Sabre
Engines: 225promax, xr2, EFI tuned, 6.2 mercruiser, suzuki 140 lol
Cruising area: littlehampton
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: surrey
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really? details please. there is one at littlehampton marina, and ever scince i have been a smaller person i have liked it, but never found one for sale!
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speed speed and MORE SPEED!
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01-10-2005, 09:53 AM
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Registered User
Country: Job Centre
Location: In a box
Occupation: Chaos's gofer
Interests: Skiving
Boat make: Spectre 30
Engines: 2 x Promax 225
Cruising area: In the bath
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: In a box
Posts: 5,201
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Mike and I used that one for the CE tests, prior to me buying the moulds from him. I've got a 22 that Mike moulded for me, it's a hull & deck, bonded together with rubrail and some structures fitted.
Still needs some work to finish, bulkheads & floor mainly. It's a white hull & deck with black screen!
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02-10-2005, 12:59 PM
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Le Cat
Country: France
Location: Paris
Occupation: Computer Sales
Boat name: Le Cat
Boat make: Argo Cat 18
Engines: Mercury 2.4EFI
Cruising area: Paris
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Paris
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TD, What would that finished boat cost roughly ?
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03-10-2005, 09:00 AM
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Registered User
Country: uk
Location: surrey
Occupation: Railway staff
Boat make: P23, P21, R20, RingRanger 25, Sabre
Engines: 225promax, xr2, EFI tuned, 6.2 mercruiser, suzuki 140 lol
Cruising area: littlehampton
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: surrey
Posts: 358
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yeah what sort of price finished??
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03-10-2005, 09:31 AM
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Registered User
Country: Job Centre
Location: In a box
Occupation: Chaos's gofer
Interests: Skiving
Boat make: Spectre 30
Engines: 2 x Promax 225
Cruising area: In the bath
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: In a box
Posts: 5,201
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£12.5k ish, depending on spec! That would buy you a fully fitted boat with upholstery, fuel tank and deck fittings, ready to accept your steering and motor!
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03-10-2005, 10:31 AM
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Registered User
Country: Scotland
Location: Kirkcudbright
Interests: Boats n Lambrettas
Boat make: Boatless
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Kirkcudbright
Posts: 978
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What sort of performance could you expect with a single 200 2.5 or would it need a twin setup ?
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03-10-2005, 11:13 AM
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Registered User
Country: Job Centre
Location: In a box
Occupation: Chaos's gofer
Interests: Skiving
Boat make: Spectre 30
Engines: 2 x Promax 225
Cruising area: In the bath
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: In a box
Posts: 5,201
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A single 200hp 2.5 merc or similar gives about the same performance as the same motor on a 21' Ring /Phantom or something similar, but with an incredibly soft ride!
To do the boat justice it really needs something a bit sportier like a Promax or a 2.5efi!
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03-10-2005, 11:21 AM
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Le Cat
Country: France
Location: Paris
Occupation: Computer Sales
Boat name: Le Cat
Boat make: Argo Cat 18
Engines: Mercury 2.4EFI
Cruising area: Paris
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Paris
Posts: 753
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80ish mph then ?
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03-10-2005, 03:52 PM
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Registered User
Country: england
Occupation: Engineer
Interests: Boats !! Bikes !! Birds !!!
Boat make: Phantom18
Engines: Merc xr2
Cruising area: Morecambe bay !! Plus to piel for a pint !!
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 11
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Faster than yours !!! roofer !!
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03-10-2005, 04:00 PM
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Registered User
Country: Job Centre
Location: In a box
Occupation: Chaos's gofer
Interests: Skiving
Boat make: Spectre 30
Engines: 2 x Promax 225
Cruising area: In the bath
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: In a box
Posts: 5,201
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Originally posted by FrenchPhil
80ish mph then ?
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Nice thought! but I think you'd need a bit more than 200hp for that. A 300PM would suit it!
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03-10-2005, 04:30 PM
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Le Cat
Country: France
Location: Paris
Occupation: Computer Sales
Boat name: Le Cat
Boat make: Argo Cat 18
Engines: Mercury 2.4EFI
Cruising area: Paris
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Paris
Posts: 753
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Okay lets say 70+ with an xr2 & hydraulic lift on a river.
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03-10-2005, 04:34 PM
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Registered User
Location: GOLDEN MILE
Boat name: LILY THE PINK AND TERMINATOR 11
Boat make: PHANTOM 21 AND 20
Engines: 2.5 EFI X 2
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: GOLDEN MILE
Posts: 2,475
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Quote:
Originally posted by phantom18
Faster than yours !!! roofer !!
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Is that a question or a statement ?
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03-10-2005, 04:42 PM
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Registered User
Country: Job Centre
Location: In a box
Occupation: Chaos's gofer
Interests: Skiving
Boat make: Spectre 30
Engines: 2 x Promax 225
Cruising area: In the bath
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: In a box
Posts: 5,201
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Quote:
Originally posted by FrenchPhil
Okay lets say 70+ with an xr2 & hydraulic lift on a river.
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As I said earlier, about the same as a Phantom/Ring 21, so probably not!
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03-10-2005, 04:44 PM
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Registered User
Country: U.K
Location: Christchurch/Nottingham
Occupation: Student
Interests: My brothers boat
Boat name: My brothers
Boat make: Ring 15
Engines: 70HP Tohatsu
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Christchurch/Nottingham
Posts: 178
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The Ringcat in Christchurch does 60MPH with a standard 250HP Yamaha, which I belive has some set back. So I would think you would need a really modded motor, maybe roofers, to get anywhere near 80mph. That or a Ranger Rover Sport and towbar.
Alex
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03-10-2005, 04:59 PM
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Registered User
Country: Job Centre
Location: In a box
Occupation: Chaos's gofer
Interests: Skiving
Boat make: Spectre 30
Engines: 2 x Promax 225
Cruising area: In the bath
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: In a box
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Quote:
Originally posted by WAVEJUMPER
The Ringcat in Christchurch does 60MPH with a standard 250HP Yamaha, which I belive has some set back. So I would think you would need a really modded motor, maybe roofers, to get anywhere near 80mph. That or a Ranger Rover Sport and towbar.
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It'll have a bracket of some sorts, coz it doesn't have a well. 60 is slower than it should be going, but the motor is not really the right one for the boat, seem to remember it being an xl.
When we ce'd them, Mike had the use of one with a 200hp merc on it with a Paralift, can't recall the max speed, but it left my 21 for dead, and that was in some real sloppy water. My 21 would run 63mph, and I recall looking over at the cat thinking what a smooth ride they were having, whilst I spent most of the time in the air!
It's what persuaded me to buy the rights to it!
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03-10-2005, 05:06 PM
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Le Cat
Country: France
Location: Paris
Occupation: Computer Sales
Boat name: Le Cat
Boat make: Argo Cat 18
Engines: Mercury 2.4EFI
Cruising area: Paris
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Paris
Posts: 753
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TD what would you estimate the boat weight ?
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03-10-2005, 05:09 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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Quote:
Originally posted by Tony Davis
I recall looking over at the cat thinking what a smooth ride they were having, whilst I spent most of the time in the air!
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I'm not saying you're wrong on this occasion nobby, but it 'always' looks like the 'other' guy is getting a softer ride, remember when we were racing.
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03-10-2005, 05:12 PM
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#39
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Registered User
Country: Job Centre
Location: In a box
Occupation: Chaos's gofer
Interests: Skiving
Boat make: Spectre 30
Engines: 2 x Promax 225
Cruising area: In the bath
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: In a box
Posts: 5,201
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I couldn't agree more, but in this case I actually got to have a go in "the other" boat, and remember looking at my 21 running alongside us and thinking, "those poor sods are gonna hurt in the morning"! 
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03-10-2005, 05:16 PM
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Registered User
Country: Job Centre
Location: In a box
Occupation: Chaos's gofer
Interests: Skiving
Boat make: Spectre 30
Engines: 2 x Promax 225
Cruising area: In the bath
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: In a box
Posts: 5,201
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Quote:
Originally posted by FrenchPhil
TD what would you estimate the boat weight ?
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When Mike was building them, 860 kgs
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