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27-12-2005, 10:31 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Shropshire
Boat name: Misbehaving
Boat make: Phantom 18
Engines: Mariner 150 v6
Cruising area: South coast
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CLE or Speedmaster???
Can anyone help?
Can anyone explain what a cle and a speedmaster gearbox is, and what the differances are between them and a standard box as i am searching for something with low water pick-ups to fit on my mariner v6 and haven't got a bloody clue what one is!! Any pics of one would be very useful!!
Many thanks, Steve.
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27-12-2005, 10:33 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Birmingham
Occupation: Scratching
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They are sports gearboxes with low water pickups and should fit your Mariner V6 as its the same as a Merc V6 leg. CLE's are fairly easy to come by.
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27-12-2005, 10:56 PM
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Le Cat
Country: France
Location: Paris
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Look on this page about 2/3 rds down. Very informative & has pics :
http://www.biggerhammer.net/mercury/
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27-12-2005, 10:56 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Shropshire
Boat name: Misbehaving
Boat make: Phantom 18
Engines: Mariner 150 v6
Cruising area: South coast
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27-12-2005, 11:02 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
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Where abouts in the Midlands??
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27-12-2005, 11:03 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Shropshire
Boat name: Misbehaving
Boat make: Phantom 18
Engines: Mariner 150 v6
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Cheers FrenchPhil!!!!
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27-12-2005, 11:03 PM
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Location: West Sussex
Occupation: Grease Monkey
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Boat name: S.B Racing
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Ring greg atr gb watersports he'll have one mate! 01733 322108
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27-12-2005, 11:05 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Shropshire
Boat name: Misbehaving
Boat make: Phantom 18
Engines: Mariner 150 v6
Cruising area: South coast
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Where abouts in the Midlands?? [/B][/QUOTE]
Parents and boat live in Stourbridge, and I live in Bournville, so only up the road from you!!
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27-12-2005, 11:08 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
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Parents and boat live in Stourbridge, and I live in Bournville, so only up the road from you!! [/B][/QUOTE]
Your dad doesnt own a Poxhaul Omega Estate does he??
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27-12-2005, 11:44 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
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No. The boat only comes out about a dozen times a year, its too much of a pain in the arse having to drive nearly 200 miles to Swanage or Poole where we use it-if you had have seen it you wouldn't forget it,its bright yellowy orange!!
Was goin to email pic, but the computer has gone for a sh1t and wont work now...ba$t*rd computers...
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28-12-2005, 10:02 AM
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BananaShark Member
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Steve, I think you need to look at what you're trying to achieve, the 150 Mariner might not accept either a CLE or Sportmaster, and unless you raise the engine a lot it won't gain you much speed if any, and then it won't be any good for skiing, so you'll need a lifter to make it go up and down - by which time you night as well have got a 200!
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28-12-2005, 10:07 AM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Birmingham
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Interests: Big Dinners
Boat name: Never Enough
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Cruising area: Anywhere! I prefer Weymouth
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Has that transom been cut down also?
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28-12-2005, 11:02 AM
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yes
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28-12-2005, 11:21 AM
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Country: England
Location: Shropshire
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Boat make: Phantom 18
Engines: Mariner 150 v6
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The transom has been extencively reinforced by previous owner, but not cut down at all. I have a hydraulic power lifter with about 6" up/down travel to go on, but aint got round to fitting it yet, along with a set of ST16 trim tabs..! I might consider changing the engine some time soon, but this mariner is a real rough diamond due to quite a few mods being done to it, it comfortably outdrags ring and phantom 18's with 200's on, and its cheap to run, even at 70mph!
Mr Rob, whats the Promax 225 like? I could be tempted in the future with an engine like that, I here they are a bit more reliable and dont need as much servicing compared to the rather horny 2.5 EFI offshore units?
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28-12-2005, 11:45 AM
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so its not the boat in the pic
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28-12-2005, 12:15 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Birmingham
Occupation: Scratching
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Originally posted by stevie wonder
Mr Rob, whats the Promax 225 like? I could be tempted in the future with an engine like that, I here they are a bit more reliable and dont need as much servicing compared to the rather horny 2.5 EFI offshore units?
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I have only used it the once! It accelerates really well but I only had it last year and havent really had the chance to push it! I am going to have it Modified sometime next year at Ocean Racing in Gosport as I had a really good chat with the guy there Geoff. Looking at having it blue printed and ported and should give me and extra 30hp-40hp on a stardard intake.
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28-12-2005, 12:15 PM
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Country: England
Location: Shropshire
Boat name: Misbehaving
Boat make: Phantom 18
Engines: Mariner 150 v6
Cruising area: South coast
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It is the boat in the pic, but as far as im aware it hasn't been cut, could be wrong though. I've seen others that look like that on the back. Have you any pics of one that hasn't got the cut out on?
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28-12-2005, 01:34 PM
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
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Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's
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Quote:
Originally posted by stevie wonder
I might consider changing the engine some time soon, but this mariner is a real rough diamond due to quite a few mods being done to it, it comfortably outdrags ring and phantom 18's with 200's on, and its cheap to run, even at 70mph!
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Sounds like it "if ain't broke don't fix it" then!
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28-12-2005, 01:44 PM
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Registered User
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I just want to get the best out of what I have already, and I figure its the next logical thing to add once i eventually fit the hydraulic jack plate.
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28-12-2005, 02:04 PM
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i do have a picture of a uncut 18but its to big to upload.why don,t you attach a nose cone kit to the gearbox. what prop are you running.
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