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13-06-2005, 08:27 PM
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Engine Set Back
Can someone explain to me (an amateur) what the advantages of having your engine set back from the transom are.
Cheers guys.
Rob. 
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13-06-2005, 08:32 PM
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feck knows! 
puts the prop in cleaner water?
alters the c of g?
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13-06-2005, 08:33 PM
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Makes the boat longer
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13-06-2005, 08:35 PM
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Its wicked if you have a hydraulic jackplate cos u can jack the mota right up sorted specially if u drive on a trailer like me
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13-06-2005, 08:43 PM
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Makes the engine a lot easier to work on when you've broken it!
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13-06-2005, 09:22 PM
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hello
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I think Gavs got it right. Gives better drive (less slip) and moves the C of G back so levering the nose out more.
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13-06-2005, 09:23 PM
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And if you have a hydraulic lifter its something else to help run your battery down so you have to get towed in by the life boat eh Burty. 
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13-06-2005, 10:27 PM
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Thats why I have a volt meter in the dash! lol
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14-06-2005, 08:02 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by MrRob
Thats why I have a volt meter in the dash! lol
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So when the volts are showing low, where ya going plug the battery charger in! 
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14-06-2005, 08:20 AM
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Ask a question of yourself brefore going ahead wih a lifter.
What am I going to be using the boat for?
Do I want Max Speed or functionality?
Yes they a great bit of kit and gives you an increased operation envlope, but to you really need it, really? or is it just another toy / trend.
If you want one how is your driving style, may not suit.
In time they will all break it's just at which threshold !
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14-06-2005, 08:20 AM
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Ask a question of yourself brefore going ahead wih a lifter.
What am I going to be using the boat for?
Do I want Max Speed or functionality?
Yes they a great bit of kit and gives you an increased operation envlope, but to you really need it, really? or is it just another toy / trend.
If you want one how is your driving style, may not suit.
In time they will all break it's just at which threshold !
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14-06-2005, 09:10 AM
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Such a good point, you made it twice! 
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14-06-2005, 09:11 AM
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14-06-2005, 09:22 AM
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Yep, theres one for the administrator two posts in under 30 sec's
having some network crap here today
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14-06-2005, 07:12 PM
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Well the lift came with my new engine so it wouldnt make sense not to use it. Do I need a lfter? I think everybody needs a lifter! Who wants to be stuck with a single setup only? I can drop it in for skiing or raise it out for top end speed! But as long as your engine is running flat batteries are not a problem.
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14-06-2005, 07:26 PM
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Quote:
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Who wants to be stuck with a single setup only? I can drop it in for skiing or raise it out for top end speed! But as long as your engine is running flat batteries are not a problem.
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agree with you to a point......
but
you risk over revving your motor if you have no experience with lifters.....(ie, you want to ski, your mate jumps in the drivers seat ???)
on a pleasure/ski boat is it really worth risking the most expensive bit of your rig.............IMO no.
Not wishing to offend those folk with lifters but i feel its more a "bling" accessory .
to me the more gadgets that you have takes some of the pleasure away cause you are constantly adjusting this or that........ instead of sitting back and enjoying the ride!
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14-06-2005, 08:11 PM
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Thew other problem is that if you set it too high, you can lose water pressure and blow your engine up!
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14-06-2005, 08:18 PM
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Hence the water pressure gauge I just bought! I would never never never never never never never never never never never never let anyone else drive my boat. Only skiing I will be doing is pulling a few mates around on a inflatable and ting. As for bling yeh they do look cool :-D
I have a CLE Bullet box with low water pickups so it shouldnt be too much of a problem.
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14-06-2005, 10:28 PM
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Wack the lifter on it make u think how u did with out it. so much easier when lauching and recovering, I hardly ever use it when im moving though dont belive its neccesary or needed to go faster. I use my trim tabs all the time though
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14-06-2005, 11:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Gav
agree with you to a point......
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you risk over revving your motor if you have no experience with lifters.....
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Oops 
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