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Old 18-10-2010, 09:50 PM   #1
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Hydrolic Lifter

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My name is Jack and I live in Guernsey. My current boatis a Ring 21c with a Merc 225 optimax, I am using a hydrolic lifter on this boat. I am changing hull to a P21 and was wondering if anyone had any experience of a lifter on a Phantom as I have heard mixed reports. It sets the motor back about 40cm which is a fair amount compared to most lifters. Do you think this would improve the P21 or is it not worth using it? If not is anyone interested in buying it off me?

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Old 19-10-2010, 06:48 AM   #2
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General conclusion from lots of people trying is that the Phantoms run best with the motor on the transom, I'd imagine it'd be horrendous with that amount of setback on a Phantom.

What you've got is a Gill bracket/Lifter in one, ideal for anyone with a Ring, stick some pictures of it in the trading post and I'm sure it won't hang about, it's a lovely bit of kit!

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Old 19-10-2010, 10:34 AM   #3
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Cheers James Ill take a few pictures of it and put it up. Its not something I really wanted to get rid of because it is such a good looking thing but if I have no use for it someone else is better of taking it and me having a bit of extra cash to run the RS6
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Ha ha, should get another hour or two of petrol if you get a good price!!
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Old 19-10-2010, 07:13 PM   #5
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I've got a "lifter" on the back of my 19. The CoG is adjusted to suit.
It works okay for me.
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Is it half a metre long?
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Old 21-10-2010, 04:58 PM   #7
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Adjusting the COG is the critical factor

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I've got a "lifter" on the back of my 19. The CoG is adjusted to suit.
It works okay for me.
We have a Gorilla hydraulic lifter on The Mutz Nuts (P20) which also works very well with COG adjusted to suit.

The Gorilla only has around 4-1/2" of setback mind.

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Thanks for the replies lads, Ill probably set the boat up without it, see how it goes and them maybe in the future I can try the boat with the lifter. Ill get dome measurements and photos to post up on here to see what you guys think.
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Is it half a metre long?
What's your question here refer to?
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It was a tounge in cheek comment relating to the setback of your lifter compared to the 40cm of setback on Jack's. What I was getting at is that yours may well work with a relatively low setback of (I'd imagine) about 5", whereas Jack's would likely be way ott for a P21 with 40cm of setback!

As per usual my amazing wit fell flat on it's face

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It was a tounge in cheek comment relating to the setback of your lifter compared to the 40cm of setback on Jack's. What I was getting at is that yours may well work with a relatively low setback of (I'd imagine) about 5", whereas Jack's would likely be way ott for a P21 with 40cm of setback!

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I understand that mate, but 40cm is a taxi drive away, what does he expect ????
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Ha ha, it does look amusing (and awesome!) in the water on the ring, like the motor's nothing to do with the boat and just floating about on it's own!

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I understand that mate, but 40cm is a taxi drive away, what does he expect ????
What does who expect?
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