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26-10-2005, 09:17 AM
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#81
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Registered User
Location: West Coast of Norway
Occupation: naval architect
Interests: surface piercing props, stepped hulls, air entrapment hulls
Boat name: none
Boat make: PetterTintorera
Engines: Yamaha 90
Cruising area: West Coast of Norway
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: West Coast of Norway
Posts: 888
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We bought it in sept 2002, and it has been lying outside our workshop for a few years. It’s gonna be used at work for some equipment tests. After that we will most likely just keep it.
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23-11-2005, 04:46 PM
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#82
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: Portsmouth
Occupation: Marine Engineer
Interests: everything fast
Boat make: Phantom 28/phantom 18
Engines: 2x Mercury 3.0 225 optimax/yamaha 85
Cruising area: Solent
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Portsmouth
Posts: 1,346
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do want to sell the hull
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24-01-2006, 07:43 AM
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#83
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Senior Member
Country: Finland
Boat name: Wildfire IV
Boat make: Sleekcraft 21 exec jr.
Engines: Chevy 454
Cruising area: Turku Archipelago/ Finnish Gulf
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 245
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Quote:
Originally posted by Captain Chaos
Did phantom have any dickxsleksix workin there in the late 80's
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I doubt it, think thats only an american problem...
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24-01-2006, 07:45 AM
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#84
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Senior Member
Country: Finland
Boat name: Wildfire IV
Boat make: Sleekcraft 21 exec jr.
Engines: Chevy 454
Cruising area: Turku Archipelago/ Finnish Gulf
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 245
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Quote:
Originally posted by Scand
It 21 ish foot long, bought ist cheap of a field in the new forest. Have been rigged the Johnson or Evenrude V8 at some point and was used for “transportation” of gods between Monaco and Gibraltar, allegedly. Would be interesting to know its age.
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Morocco-Gibraltar would make more sense...or Ibiza-Gibraltar.
Oh well.
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24-01-2006, 07:47 AM
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#85
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Senior Member
Country: Finland
Boat name: Wildfire IV
Boat make: Sleekcraft 21 exec jr.
Engines: Chevy 454
Cruising area: Turku Archipelago/ Finnish Gulf
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 245
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ciao
If memory serves –
The Foxes would have won had they not failed post race scrutineering, something to do with gearbox ratios.
They were honest boys and were seriously P***ed with a certain supplier of Merc parts who assured them that it had been homologated. I think legal proceedings followed…
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See I told you Americans have problems in reading....
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13-04-2006, 03:59 PM
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#86
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Registered User
Country: Scotland
Location: Kirkcudbright
Interests: Boats n Lambrettas
Boat make: Boatless
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Kirkcudbright
Posts: 978
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P18/19/20/21
What are the hull differences between a P18/19/20/21 apart from the length?
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15-04-2006, 11:20 AM
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#87
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Crayford, Kent.
Occupation: Electrical gezza!
Interests: Petrolhead
Boat name: Wayne Kerr
Boat make: Phantom xl
Engines: Mercury 2.5, 200(ish)
Cruising area: Essex, Hampshire, Mediterranean
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Crayford, Kent.
Posts: 1,199
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Re: P18/19/20/21
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Originally posted by mike k
What are the hull differences between a P18/19/20/21 apart from the length?
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A "not to sure" source thinks it was something to do with the chine rails.
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15-04-2006, 09:37 PM
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#88
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 6,890
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It's much much more than that
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16-04-2006, 01:43 AM
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#89
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Registered User
Country: Scotland
Location: Kirkcudbright
Interests: Boats n Lambrettas
Boat make: Boatless
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Kirkcudbright
Posts: 978
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Quote:
Originally posted by Matt
It's much much more than that
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12-06-2006, 06:44 PM
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#90
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Crayford, Kent.
Occupation: Electrical gezza!
Interests: Petrolhead
Boat name: Wayne Kerr
Boat make: Phantom xl
Engines: Mercury 2.5, 200(ish)
Cruising area: Essex, Hampshire, Mediterranean
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Crayford, Kent.
Posts: 1,199
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Quote:
Originally posted by mike k
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"Bump"
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02-10-2006, 01:11 AM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Hertfordshire
Occupation: Airline Operations.
Interests: Rum. Pirates. And West Cornwall pasties.
Boat name: Any suggestions?
Boat make: Ring 18
Engines: Mercury 200 Black Max
Cruising area: The Bay of 'E'
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Hertfordshire
Posts: 369
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I should have bought a Phantom.
Beginning to think I've got the only Ring without serial numbers!
I've checked absolutely everywhere (under dash, under foredeck, under splashwell, inside transom and behind rear seats) and there's not one to be found!
I'm going to get onto Mike Ring again in the morning and see what he comes up with.
If I get any joy I'll post the outcome so that anyone else who has this problem can resolve it easily. I can't be the only one.
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02-10-2006, 01:42 AM
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The Doc
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 8,290
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often, in a case such as yours; the serial number has been covered-up with a transom plate or glassed over with (a small) repair somewhere in the boats history.
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10-10-2006, 07:40 PM
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#93
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Crayford, Kent.
Occupation: Electrical gezza!
Interests: Petrolhead
Boat name: Wayne Kerr
Boat make: Phantom xl
Engines: Mercury 2.5, 200(ish)
Cruising area: Essex, Hampshire, Mediterranean
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Crayford, Kent.
Posts: 1,199
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Quote:
Originally posted by Burnett
I'm going to get onto Mike Ring again in the morning and see what he comes up with.
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How'd you get on?
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10-10-2006, 08:10 PM
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#94
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Registered User
Country: Job Centre
Location: In a box
Occupation: Chaos's gofer
Interests: Skiving
Boat make: Spectre 30
Engines: 2 x Promax 225
Cruising area: In the bath
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: In a box
Posts: 5,201
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Quote:
Originally posted by Burnett
Beginning to think I've got the only Ring without serial numbers!
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You sure it's genuine?
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27-11-2006, 06:41 PM
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#95
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Registered User
Country: gibraltar
Location: gibraltar
Occupation: Shop Proprietor
Interests: ocr,sleeping
Boat name: The Rock
Boat make: Phantom 19XL
Engines: Yamaha 130B
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: gibraltar
Posts: 331
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Monaco lol,it does look like a Gib boat by the looks of it,and it must have had an evinrude as it was the third most used outboard after the Yami and mercs down ere.i cant tell u much more about it coz they all looked the same (BLACK) in colour,has it got or had a G number on the sides some were?as example G123?
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24-03-2007, 07:42 PM
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#96
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Registered User
Country: Spain
Location: Mallorca
Occupation: Retired
Interests: Boats, boats and boats
Boat name: Patriot and Forca
Boat make: Phantom 21. Falcon Bonito 36
Engines: 200hp Mariner. 2 x GM 6.5 Twin Turbo Diesels
Cruising area: The Med
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Mallorca
Posts: 716
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Can anyone confirm? I was told, some time ago, that Steve Baker used to put the HIN under the deck, as well as on the transom. Anyone know if this is correct? and if so, where was in normaly put?
Peter
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24-03-2007, 07:46 PM
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#97
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Crayford, Kent.
Occupation: Electrical gezza!
Interests: Petrolhead
Boat name: Wayne Kerr
Boat make: Phantom xl
Engines: Mercury 2.5, 200(ish)
Cruising area: Essex, Hampshire, Mediterranean
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Crayford, Kent.
Posts: 1,199
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Peterjfinch
Can anyone confirm? I was told, some time ago, that Steve Baker used to put the HIN under the deck, as well as on the transom. Anyone know if this is correct? and if so, where was in normaly put?
Peter
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IIRC twas on the back of the dash, can't find mine there though!
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24-03-2007, 08:06 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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some have it on the underside of the screen (big letters in coloured gel) within the laminate. some have it writen along the deck stiffeners, in marker pen, then over laminated (visible through laminate)
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24-03-2007, 08:19 PM
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#99
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Crayford, Kent.
Occupation: Electrical gezza!
Interests: Petrolhead
Boat name: Wayne Kerr
Boat make: Phantom xl
Engines: Mercury 2.5, 200(ish)
Cruising area: Essex, Hampshire, Mediterranean
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Crayford, Kent.
Posts: 1,199
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That's the one Jon mate.
Still can't find mine "underneath" anywhere.
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26-04-2007, 07:21 AM
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#100
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sparkyvince
Country: uk
Location: N.kent
Occupation: Electrician
Interests: boats,boats and more boats.
Cruising area: N.kent
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: N.kent
Posts: 60
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Fuller
I've managed to sieve this data from my 'incomplete data back-up'!
Gavin Brown was asking about Hull ID the other day, so here goes:
Phantom Hull identification
Info for determining the age of Phantom boats
'Boats built before October 1987 had a simple reversed date system on the transom, i.e. If your boat has the numbers '860322' your boats construction was first started on: 22nd March 1986
From October 1987, to December 1997, things were a little more complicated, the hull ID consisted of a number (in most cases 3 digits), followed by a single letter. i.e.: 021J The number represents the build number, in sequence, across the model range, for that financial year. And the letter represents the financial year in which it was built (April to March) The first 2 years though, were, just to be confusing, different!, boats built from October 1987 to December 1987, used the letter 'A' (2 month period) Boats built from January 1988 to March 1989, used the letter 'B' (15 month period) From then on, each letter represents each financial year (excluding 'I') as follows:
Oct 87---Dec 87 ='A' (2 months)
Jan 88---Mar 89 ='B' (15 months)
Apr 89---Mar 90 = 'C'
Apr 90---Mar 91 ='D'
Apr 91---Mar 92 = 'E'
Apr 92---Mar 93 = 'F'
Apr 93---Mar 94 = 'G'
Apr 94---Mar 95 = 'H'
...............(missed 'I')
Apr 95---Mar 96 = 'J'
Apr 96---Mar 97 = 'K'
Apr 97---Dec 97 = 'L' (9 months)
So, a boat with the HIN: 021J would be the 21st boat built by phantom in the financial year 1996. One would need to refer to the factory records to determine exactly what model it would have been, and in which Month it was built.
From January 1998, the standard RCD (recreational craft directive) HIN system was used. This defines the boat in more detail, i.e. the country of origin, the manufacturers code, the boat model, the boat No, the month and year of production, and the model year. For example, GB-PHA28016H303 would be a phantom 28, built in GB, by Phantom boats, it would be the 16th P28' built to date, the build began in Aug 2003, and it is a 2003 model year. It splits up like this: Great Britain-Phantom boats-28'-No16-started in Aug 2003-2003 model. Clear as mud!
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Phantom 28,No 16,wash your mouth out with soap young man!!!!!!
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