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11-06-2008, 12:38 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: South West
Occupation: Business Manager
Interests: Ski Racing, MTB Racing
Boat name: Willpower
Boat make: Ring 18
Engines: XR2
Cruising area: South West
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: South West
Posts: 59
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Ring 18 / XR2 Holeshot
Hi all,
I would like to draw on everyones knowledge and experience with respect to the holeshot on my Ring 18 as it really gets bogged down until the revs get up. Top end and stability is good.
Set up as follows
Ring 18 (non stepped transom)
Standard XR2 with 20" leg
Laser II prop 21
Manual jack plate 5" set back running 2" below the V
Engine offset 2" to right
The boat is an x ocr rig and was set up like this when I boaght it. I need to ski with it and I don't think that it would pull the skin from a rice pudding let alone get me out of the water.
All suggestions are welcome
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11-06-2008, 12:45 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: South West
Boat make: Cyclone/ Cyclone/Rinker
Engines: Merc 2.5 efi's/300XS/5.0 v8
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 592
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Ditch the Laser prop and get a Trophy or Chopper/ET, or try removing the plugs on the prop to let it spin up quicker.
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12-06-2008, 07:50 AM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: South West
Occupation: Development engineer
Interests: Fast boats
Boat name: Xtreme
Boat make: Bernico 21
Engines: Mercury F1, 300 Drag, XR2 "Fingerported"
Cruising area: South West
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South West
Posts: 1,043
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Small hub prop
As Wacky said try changing the prop.
I have never found a large hub lazer to work well for holeshot.
Put a small hub prop on like a chopper or ET or a small hub Laser say a 22" and have it worked to suit the boat.
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12-06-2008, 10:19 AM
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Registered User
Country: Scotland
Location: Kirkcudbright
Interests: Boats n Lambrettas
Boat make: Boatless
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Kirkcudbright
Posts: 978
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyco
As Wacky said try changing the prop.
I have never found a large hub lazer to work well for holeshot.
Put a small hub prop on like a chopper or ET or a small hub Laser say a 22" and have it worked to suit the boat.
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It just so appens that I have one going spare. I think I got it off of Roofer a couple of years ago but never used it as I changed boats. It's in good condition and has been worked. (thinned and balanced I think)
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12-06-2008, 10:37 AM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: South West
Occupation: Business Manager
Interests: Ski Racing, MTB Racing
Boat name: Willpower
Boat make: Ring 18
Engines: XR2
Cruising area: South West
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: South West
Posts: 59
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Thanks for the advice chaps.
PM sent to Mike K
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12-06-2008, 11:04 AM
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Registered User
Country: Scotland
Location: Kirkcudbright
Interests: Boats n Lambrettas
Boat make: Boatless
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Kirkcudbright
Posts: 978
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Willpower
Thanks for the advice chaps.
PM sent to Mike K
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PM replied to
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12-06-2008, 11:35 AM
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Ringle@der
Country: England
Location: Uckfield, East Sussex.
Interests: Water Ski Racing.
Boat name: Both called ‘Irresistible’.
Boat make: Bernico F1 Twin, Monterey 265SC.
Engines: 2 x Mercury 300XS's, Yanmar 315.
Cruising area: South and east coasts. Eastbourne Marina.
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Uckfield, East Sussex.
Posts: 758
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24" Chopper
I still have for sale a good condition, mirror polished 24" chopper that I can bring to the WSM national for you to try.
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12-06-2008, 06:58 PM
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Registered User
Country: engalnd
Location: south west
Interests: ski racing
Boat name: Jack'd up, hellraiser
Boat make: Bernico 19 ET, ring 16
Engines: merc 135, merc 175, yam 90
Cruising area: Plymouth
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: south west
Posts: 1,176
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run an 18 with a 225 with a 24" ET, bow lifts ALOT,
went skking the other day with just the driver, ye i know, and we had to fill the bow tank up on full trim in, to give you an idea
but the hole shot is good with an observer
ive pretty much resounded wat everyone else has said, but thought id let you know of my own experince
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13-06-2008, 12:21 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: South West
Occupation: Business Manager
Interests: Ski Racing, MTB Racing
Boat name: Willpower
Boat make: Ring 18
Engines: XR2
Cruising area: South West
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: South West
Posts: 59
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Thanks again for help and coments, I am keen to not go down the chopper route as I always found them fast but a bit harsh, the top end isn't the be all and end all as I would like to have fun with the kids now.
I have now also discovered that the lower unit is 1:2 ratio so the prop that I have been using is probably just too big.
small hub Laser sourced.
Cheers
Marcus
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14-06-2008, 11:04 AM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: South West
Occupation: Development engineer
Interests: Fast boats
Boat name: Xtreme
Boat make: Bernico 21
Engines: Mercury F1, 300 Drag, XR2 "Fingerported"
Cruising area: South West
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South West
Posts: 1,043
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2:1
Marcus 2:1!!!
No if you have a 2:1 ratio you would need a taller prop than a 21" so I don't think it is that, I have my 22" lazer here if you wish to try it!
Let me know if you want to pop across.
Cheers
Cye
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14-06-2008, 09:53 PM
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Registered User
Country: uk
Location: bournemouth
Interests: boats
Boat name: simply black
Boat make: ring 20
Engines: merc 200 hp
Cruising area: south
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: bournemouth
Posts: 62
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try a 5blade good hole shot
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15-06-2008, 01:31 PM
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Executive Member
Country: U.K
Location: Poole
Interests: Boats
Boat name: Indecent Proposal
Boat make: Phantom 18
Engines: Mariner V6
Cruising area: southwest/southeast
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Poole
Posts: 137
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stavros
try a 5blade good hole shot
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And the pitch size would be good!
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16-06-2008, 03:08 PM
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Registered User
Country: SOUTH WEST UK
Location: WESTON SUPER MARE
Occupation: MERCEDES SALESMAN
Interests: POWER BOAT RACING
Boat name: BIG AIR
Boat make: PHANTOM 19
Engines: 200XS
Cruising area: BRISTOL CHANNEL
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: WESTON SUPER MARE
Posts: 792
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Willpower
Thanks again for help and coments, I am keen to not go down the chopper route as I always found them fast but a bit harsh, the top end isn't the be all and end all as I would like to have fun with the kids now.
I have now also discovered that the lower unit is 1:2 ratio so the prop that I have been using is probably just too big.
small hub Laser sourced.
Cheers
Marcus
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I'm one of the few on here that use my boat for leisure skiing,Phantom 20 XR2 and found the 21p high five gives very good holeshot and probable 50 mph top end,had it in some rough water last weekend and it handles that very well,previosly had a 23p Lazer 2 but this gave excesive cavitation and chine walk.this might have been due to set up but the high five seems to have curred all of this-good luck
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