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Old 15-12-2009, 01:09 PM   #1
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Ring 21 with Mercury Optimax 300xs

Hi, I am new here and it is great to find that there are so many boats like mine still running. I recently bought a Ring 21 and am thinking of rigging it with a 300 xs. What top speed do you guys think is posibble? Any info on rigging is appriciated, what prop should I use, it is a sportmaster gearcase

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Old 15-12-2009, 01:35 PM   #2
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Talk to gar163y on this forum - he has exactly this outfit.
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Old 15-12-2009, 07:10 PM   #3
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Hi, I am new here and it is great to find that there are so many boats like mine still running. I recently bought a Ring 21 and am thinking of rigging it with a 300 xs. What top speed do you guys think is posibble? Any info on rigging is appriciated, what prop should I use, it is a sportmaster gearcase

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Lower to mid 90s..
great set up
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Old 15-12-2009, 11:13 PM   #4
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i don't think Gary sees much above 80mph if that
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Old 16-12-2009, 08:09 AM   #5
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i don't think Gary sees much above 80mph if that
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Old 17-12-2009, 02:55 PM   #6
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Lower to mid 90s..
great set up
Never !!!! beleive me i tried with a Cyclone.
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Old 17-12-2009, 04:13 PM   #7
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Old 17-12-2009, 09:58 PM   #8
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I've never seen a 90 or mid 90's mph ring or phantom, not in ski race set up and not with 1 engine. Anyone being honest racing in F2 would say they are only doing 80mph max and thats on a fast flat day and maybe for 3 laps, and thats the leaders !!
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Old 17-12-2009, 10:28 PM   #9
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Lower to mid 90s..
great set up
If that was the case then wouldn't of held a national speed record up untill last year.
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Old 18-12-2009, 12:09 AM   #10
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At Cardiff this year we were keeping up with the leaders on the first few laps with an old Ring 20 and a Standard 2.5 260 HP (in good trim!) we GPS just before at 77 mph (does need a good driver to drive through the Chining) I think that confirms Dangerous remark!!!! Mr Grimes used a tuned 2.5 280 to be sure of beating us !!!
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Old 18-12-2009, 09:07 AM   #11
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Hi my dad used to race a R21 with a 2.4 bridgeport. he used a 24" 4 blade Rollar cleaver, think this may work for you too which we have for sale. PM me fo info and pics if you are interested.
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Old 18-12-2009, 10:12 AM   #12
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I've never seen a 90 or mid 90's mph ring or phantom, not in ski race set up and not with 1 engine. Anyone being honest racing in F2 would say they are only doing 80mph max and thats on a fast flat day and maybe for 3 laps, and thats the leaders !!
although the power figure might have been some what suspect
i belive Burty managed more than 90
in a single engined p20
personally never understood why he didnt take it to records week

i run a r18 with a 225 promax and best weve ever seen.. gpsd was 76.7
so i can imagine thers more to be had than 80
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Old 18-12-2009, 10:28 AM   #13
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With the Rib we managed 91.5mph with a standard 280 EFI, and we used to run 85mph offshore in slight chop, obviously it is very different to a Phantom / Ring being stepped, lifter, a Rib etc, but it did weigh about 950kg, so I think a Ring 21 set up for speed should be around a similar figure and certainly into the 80's?
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Old 18-12-2009, 10:56 AM   #14
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Mid 80's with a good setup would almost certainly handle better with a 260/280 EFI though !!

My Bernico ran same speed with std 260 as it did with the 300xs (94mph) but more stable with the 260.

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Old 18-12-2009, 07:29 PM   #15
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My "old" P21 ran 85-88 with a 250XS on gps.
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Old 20-12-2009, 04:49 PM   #16
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Thank you all for the info, if I get anywhere near 85 mph it will be great, already have a 28P cleaver prop so Ill first try that and see how it goes
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