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16-01-2009, 10:36 PM
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Stainless Steel prop for my sea ray
Hi there all
looking to change my ali prop for a stainless one but everybody and there mate has got an opinion on which one i need !
my boat is a 1990 sea ray 160 bowrider,
3.0ltr 130hp mercruiser alpha one leg.
80ltr fuel tank in the middle of the boat.
it usally has two adults and one child on board, and is used in the solent.
looking for all round improvment, not just increased top end.
( i know its not a fast boat )
i dont pull toy's !
its clear to me that there are people on here who truly understand the dark arts of proppellers,
so can you help?
cheers andy
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16-01-2009, 11:30 PM
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It would probably help to know the pitch of your current propeller, what revs you get with it, and what kind of speed. From there the people who know can work out if it would be worth changing pitch or not. I believe that the same pitch prop in stainless would still give a small all round increase in performance, the bravo 1 props are known to be good. I'm definately no expert though, others on here will be able to give a much more specific answer with the above info
Best of luck!
James
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17-01-2009, 01:41 AM
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i'm sure people will give you some answers but they will need some help
1. whats your max revs???
2. gear ratio???
3. currant prop pitch???
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17-01-2009, 09:35 AM
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a 19 lazer 2 sounds a good choice to me
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17-01-2009, 03:35 PM
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At the moment it’s got a 19p on it
#48 832830A45 19P
As for gear ratio I haven’t got a clue! As far as I know the outdrive is as it was from new if that helps.
The boat is new to me and at the moment being refitted so I cant test it, but the previous owner did say it was revving to 4600/4800 rpm, this is my first inboard boat so I don’t know if that’s right or not. I’ve always had outboards!
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17-01-2009, 06:32 PM
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a lot of ppl i know who use these type of boats are happy with a hi five, they say a good alrounder, try a 19"
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17-01-2009, 06:46 PM
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its pulling the right revs, stick with a 19
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17-01-2009, 06:57 PM
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hi 1up
i thought that high 5 props were more for pulling skiers and toys?
and off topic a bit,
i see you have a reiver with a 90hp on the back!
bet that gets a bit hairy. i had one with a mariner 60, it would chine walk like crazzzy in the slightest swell.
was a fast little boat though
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18-01-2009, 10:37 AM
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Ive got a 19 laser. If your interested pm me
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18-01-2009, 11:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy B
hi 1up
i thought that high 5 props were more for pulling skiers and toys?
and off topic a bit,
i see you have a reiver with a 90hp on the back!
bet that gets a bit hairy. i had one with a mariner 60, it would chine walk like crazzzy in the slightest swell.
was a fast little boat though
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True ,all the people i know do go skiing !!
it goes well, box standard 90 spinning a 22" raker just reach 58mph
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18-01-2009, 11:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy B
At the moment it’s got a 19p on it
#48 832830A45 19P
As for gear ratio I haven’t got a clue! As far as I know the outdrive is as it was from new if that helps.
The boat is new to me and at the moment being refitted so I cant test it, but the previous owner did say it was revving to 4600/4800 rpm, this is my first inboard boat so I don’t know if that’s right or not. I’ve always had outboards!
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I`ve got a laser II 19P, P.M if interested.Good price/No P+P
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18-01-2009, 12:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1up
it goes well, box standard 90 spinning a 22" raker just reach 58mph
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don't know if thats bravery or stupidity maybe just a healthy bit of both!!
fare play too you sir
mine was so twitchy flat out and that was with only 60hp
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18-01-2009, 09:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy B
don't know if thats bravery or stupidity maybe just a healthy bit of both!!
fare play too you sir
mine was so twitchy flat out and that was with only 60hp
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cant say i have ever had any handling issues, been out in quite rough conditions too.
It just sits on the pad and feels really stable
They were rated to 120hp too, so i fancy putting a 115 optimax on it if i can find one at the right price
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18-01-2009, 10:01 PM
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must be the extra weight of your motor.
that mariner 60 twin was very light. and mine was 15' not 16'
still great boat.
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18-01-2009, 10:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy B
must be the extra weight of your motor.
that mariner 60 twin was very light. and mine was 15' not 16'
still great boat.
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Yes they are, im very pleased with it, i would defo have another if i was looking for a 16ft boat,gives the 16 phantom a good run for there money
as far as i know he still has the moulds and would build one
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18-01-2009, 10:08 PM
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great turn of speed for 60hp
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18-01-2009, 10:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy B
Hi there all
looking to change my ali prop for a stainless one but everybody and there mate has got an opinion on which one i need !
my boat is a 1990 sea ray 160 bowrider,
3.0ltr 130hp mercruiser alpha one leg.
80ltr fuel tank in the middle of the boat.
it usally has two adults and one child on board, and is used in the solent.
looking for all round improvment, not just increased top end.
( i know its not a fast boat )
i dont pull toy's !
its clear to me that there are people on here who truly understand the dark arts of proppellers,
so can you help?
cheers andy
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I've got a 18' Cuddy with the same engine/drive unit,although a strong engine its not an engine to rev to high it gets a bit harsh sounding.I stipped my Alfa a while ago and I think you should be able to take the top cover of the gearbox and the ration is normally stamped on the gears.I used a standard 19P Alloy Mercury prop and it pulled Skiers and sensible revs I did try a 19P Lazer 2 but I think the hub was slipping so went back to the original but I would think the same pitch Stainless would be an improvement so they say
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18-01-2009, 10:15 PM
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not going flat out here, but see how it sits on the pad
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18-01-2009, 10:21 PM
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cheers nic,
the motor and drive are being serviced at the mo so i'l look into that.
something else to scribble in the back of the book!
been offered a lazer II and that seems to be the consesus of opinion so im going to give it a try.
just didn't want to over prop it and break stuff
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18-01-2009, 10:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1up
not going flat out here, but see how it sits on the pad
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defo needs the weight! mine would only sit like that if it was trimmed right out. hence the twitch!
now i want it back and put a bigger motor on it
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