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06-04-2007, 11:36 PM
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Stiff hydralic steering
Friend has twin 200 s and has twin ram steering ie ram each side the steering so stiff to turn we disconnected engines and it appears to be in the steering system any ideas ie helm rams pipes etc?
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06-04-2007, 11:43 PM
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i'd have a go at cleaning out the valves in the helm dude
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06-04-2007, 11:59 PM
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Didthink helm there is a tank at the back looks like you can put airline on?
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07-04-2007, 12:23 AM
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What helm is it?
The Capilano helm is heavy when wound all the way up.
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07-04-2007, 04:41 AM
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steering
when i had clarks 25ft phantom have the same steering and you do put an air line on. and build up pressure and makes it work ok.
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07-04-2007, 07:21 AM
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I cant for the life of me recall what px it should be but just like the power steering in the car except without the power driven pump
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07-04-2007, 08:22 AM
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You boys are mad mucking about with ya steering! I'd ring the manafacturer and c wot they say. Safer that way.
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07-04-2007, 09:11 AM
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07-04-2007, 10:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by driver510
when i had clarks 25ft phantom have the same steering and you do put an air line on. and build up pressure and makes it work ok.
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That's the original Hynautic system from way back when, as fitted to most of the multi engine racing Phantoms etc. from the 80's.
It has a vessell with a shraeder valve in the top, which is pumped up with an airline. The pressurised system won't allow bubbles to form in the fluid, or any air to be drawn in anywhere. As long as the gauge says what it should before a race, evertin is coool man.
Never used it myself, but am told by the folk who did, that it was excellent.
neil Holmes will be able to explain it's workings in detail, he probably rigged and raced a gazillion boats with it.
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07-04-2007, 12:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Fuller
It has a vessell with a shraeder valve in the top, which is pumped up with an airline.
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That sounds like an accumulator?
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07-04-2007, 02:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Boat Dude
That sounds like an accumulator?
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I think is simpler than an accumulator, no membrane within as far as I'm aware. Just a pressurised reservior to stop aereation of the hydraulic fluid.
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10-04-2007, 08:56 PM
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ive got the hynautic on my phantom and yes it is heavy always has been think mine is pumped up to half way on the gauge by using a bike pump .
its better at speed it becomes fairly easy,perfect for taking both hands of the wheel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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10-04-2007, 09:41 PM
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Thinkin of replacing with cable or twin seastar rams dohh!
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13-04-2007, 05:14 PM
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Air in the system makes it stiffen up (although I can´t explain why). Some will purge any bubbles out with use, but apparently some don´t.
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13-04-2007, 11:23 PM
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Hoping the helm iz faulty doesnt appear to be in the rams but helm seems still stiff even when removed from boat
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