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14-06-2010, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by grandmas denture
... yup, heads are old, but used till 1987, cowl doesnt match to them
... check out the main jets, if it is 2.0l, .050 is hp135, .062 is hp150
Product Information
Serial Number: 0C273729
Model Number: MER 1135412JD
Description: ME - 135 ELPT
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£100 if you can make thoses heads fit anything newer than blue band 83,
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14-06-2010, 09:52 AM
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I checket it and there stands only the code WH on top right of the carburator.
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14-06-2010, 09:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by easy
I checket it and there stands only the code WH on top right of the carburator.
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I was today by the mercury dealer and he saw that the number comes with the 150 hp also every part that he show wat exactly the same i order some parts of the 150 hp motor becouse they where the same.
The v150 starts with oc23 en end at od29 i saw in the mercury program
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14-06-2010, 09:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by easy
I was today by the mercury dealer and he saw that the number comes with the 150 hp also every part that he show wat exactly the same i order some parts of the 150 hp motor becouse they where the same.
The v150 starts with oc23 en end at od29 i saw in the mercury program
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so what year was it...
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14-06-2010, 10:43 PM
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Boat name: Tremlett 15
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On my 3 Merc Serial No. lists, C273729 falls into the range C221500 > D000749
which are for V6 engines in 1990/91, this range rather than covering only one hp size seems to cover the following ( a wee bit odd ??? )
275hp 1990 v6 3.4l
250hp 1990 v6 3.4l
200hp xri 1990 v6 2.4l
200hp xri 1991 v6 2.4l
200hp 1991 v6 2.5l
200hp 1990 v6 2.5l
150hp xr4 1990 v6 2.0l
150hp 1990 v6 2.0l
135 1990 v6 2.0l
also on one list C221500 > C291519 is listed as 200hp 2.4l v6
I dont think this helps alot
1990/1991 decals are in pic below ( 2nd & 3rd from the bottom )
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15-06-2010, 08:09 AM
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#26
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Location: north west
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Techteam
Looks like a 135 to me, vertical front end. It's definately not a 200 with that layout heads etc.
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long a go before your your time when ever that was, around 78 to 82 the v200 was vertical reed and old style heads as was 150/1750 ,225 had 7 finger horizontal reeds ,but all had that pattern of heads
the head temp sensor was between 2 head bolts on rh side not in middle as of 84 on with redsigned block,but you new that anyway,
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15-06-2010, 08:10 AM
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#27
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Registered User
Location: north west
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tremlett 15
On my 3 Merc Serial No. lists, C273729 falls into the range C221500 > D000749
which are for V6 engines in 1990/91, this range rather than covering only one hp size seems to cover the following ( a wee bit odd ??? )
275hp 1990 v6 3.4l
250hp 1990 v6 3.4l
200hp xri 1990 v6 2.4l
200hp xri 1991 v6 2.4l
200hp 1991 v6 2.5l
200hp 1990 v6 2.5l
150hp xr4 1990 v6 2.0l
150hp 1990 v6 2.0l
135 1990 v6 2.0l
also on one list C221500 > C291519 is listed as 200hp 2.4l v6
I dont think this helps alot
1990/1991 decals are in pic below ( 2nd & 3rd from the bottom )
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you need to go back further to blue band for powerhead approx 78-83 split cowls
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15-06-2010, 08:12 AM
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Team Skater 21Ft
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The cowl is original i saw yesterdag also in the mercury program with the air intake on top is has to be 150hp.
Nows some on what are the changes to make it 175 ?
I heard its only the Carburators ?
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15-06-2010, 08:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steve h
long a go before your your time when ever that was, around 78 to 82 the v200 was vertical reed and old style heads as was 150/1750 ,225 had 7 finger horizontal reeds ,but all had that pattern of heads
the head temp sensor was between 2 head bolts on rh side not in middle as of 84 on with redsigned block,but you new that anyway,
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But this is fun Steve it's a lot better than reading posts asking the same questions about props for the gizzilionth time. What I find most amusing is where did he find the serial number? On the saddle perhaps? I can't quite see the exhaust cover either. Anyway about the £100, I am still married so will have to pass you up on that 1 as it's impossible to be issued with that amount without first submitting the correct form in triplicate which I doubt would be approved.
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15-06-2010, 08:50 AM
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Location: north west
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Techteam
But this is fun Steve it's a lot better than reading posts asking the same questions about props for the gizzilionth time. What I find most amusing is where did he find the serial number? On the saddle perhaps? I can't quite see the exhaust cover either. Anyway about the £100, I am still married so will have to pass you up on that 1 as it's impossible to be issued with that amount without first submitting the correct form in triplicate which I doubt would be approved.
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hey at moment used to givin it all away so another 100 neither here or there,wait till trys fitting head gaskets to it
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15-06-2010, 09:26 AM
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Team Skater 21Ft
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Youre right i never saw the exhaust plate eather.
The old owner its a shop told its a 150hp butt i was not for sure
so i ask here maybe the shop was not right and was it a 175
there is nothing standing on the engine what bore or horsepower it
produce
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25-06-2010, 08:29 AM
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Today i checked the compression on the heads and what i found was
left side
about 125-130 psi
8.2 bar
8.0 bar
8.2 bar
Right side
about 75-80 psi
6.2 bar
6.0 bar
6.2 bar
Why i go check this becouse the engine wont go over the 5100 rpm and it
aint screaming like the first run i make with it.
Sorry my english is not as good as i wish butt im dutch
The serial number is of the bracket
I checked the Reeds they were ok so i taked the head of en i saw a
fuel in the cooling chamber on all 3 the cyl so i order now new headgasket
and fix it on en test it again if is now ok.
The carb is of now the numbers are
1374-54270 WH
on the srew plate is says on top 157-
155
48-10759
And inside the carb on the trottle is says 34-79
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25-06-2010, 08:41 AM
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#33
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Registered User
Location: north west
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hope you not ordered gaskets from serial no as i said before its older block as your pic shows 79-83 those gaskets on yours are newer ones and have been redrilled to move bolt pattern,
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25-06-2010, 11:25 AM
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#34
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Country: Northern Ireland
Location: Bangor Co Down
Occupation: Quantity Surveyor ( Retired )
Interests: Boating & classic speed boats
Boat name: Tremlett 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steve h
you need to go back further to blue band for powerhead approx 78-83
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random samples
has the engine size & year been established yet ?
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25-06-2010, 12:11 PM
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Steve wins! as suspected a much older powerhead with the electrics from the serial numbered powerhead grafted on. Unfortunately a bitzer.
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25-06-2010, 12:52 PM
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I dont now the year
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25-06-2010, 01:16 PM
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Engine tester
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Quote:
Originally Posted by easy
I dont now the year
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I think that the answer they are trying to tell you above is multiple
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25-06-2010, 01:53 PM
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#38
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I now butt i just buyed the motor this way with the boat and i got as much information as u do i can only say what numbers are on the parts,
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25-06-2010, 05:18 PM
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#39
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Location: near Ghent
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Interests: boating, wakeboarding, snowboarding, fitness
Boat name: Outlaw
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Quote:
Originally Posted by motorvator
I think that the answer they are trying to tell you above is multiple
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Little language help -> Daarom noemen ze die "bitzer" , samengebouwd met verschillende stukken zoals in "bits and pieces".
I find this thread quite entertaining and informative though.
Good luck with getting this engine in shape.
Be carefull with the partnumbers : I guess bitzers can give major issues.
T.
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26-06-2010, 08:56 AM
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#40
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Location: north west
Interests: Northern poker runs,without the loosers
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Techteam
Steve wins! as suspected a much older powerhead with the electrics from the serial numbered powerhead grafted on. Unfortunately a bitzer.
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feck me i must be gettinig old had one new in good old northern race days,
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