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[PerformanceDodge]

Originally Posted by motorvator

Mr G you are of course quite right, but what you fail to mention is that P1 in their wisdom 2 weeks ago posted this on the worlds leading video site.

http://www.youtube.com/user/P1SuperS.../1/gXvGqJEtFME

which clearly includes the said incident and a lot of other crap instances in the hope of promoting their series.

Just about everybody knows that we are due a report on a tragedy in single engined offshore circuit racing which every harbourmaster and the like will receive and here we have a promoter glamourising racing accidents.

Now call me old fashioned, but I think they need their ******* heads testing.

Blimey that's my boat going over 33 seconds in, poor thing

Just watching that it makes me wonder if it was more than just financial reasons that Honda pulled the plug on the series. May be they thought it was just a matter of time and did not need the adverse publicity.

The sad thing is, to the uneducated it is exactly that sort of action that sells tickets, draws crowds in and puts bums on seats, because and until someone is seriously injured its just spills and thrills to the spectators and the money makers.

For those who participate it's surely just a matter of time before and innocent racer is involved in a serious incident due to the antics of a minority in this series. As for increasing the power of the 225's by 33% well thats just surely going to up the anty.

[Ben]

Originally Posted by PKJB

MAIB report into the Dover accident will be publicly available on their website on 7th July

Here it is

[larby]

That makes pretty scary reading and totally justifies any concern shown on here about the way the honda fleet was being raced.
Other than that I'm pretty speechless.

James

[Jon Fuller]

Originally Posted by freddy21

Are you referring to the 225's power being increase to 300hp. A 33% increase in power making them now in excess of 80mph. Despite the reduction in engine weight of 40Kg not convinced that this is going to stop the rolling over, especially with an increase in top speed of 10mph.

I *think* there may have been a bit of sarcasm in Bobs post.

[cider daze]

I now have this boat for sale, http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...STRK:MESELX:IT

[team williams 150]

Originally Posted by DAREDEVIL

I agree, very unsafe racing !!!!!!!

its not unsafe at all

[Jon Fuller]

Originally Posted by team williams 150

its not unsafe at all

Idiot.

Why don't you take up another sport.

[team williams 150]

Originally Posted by Jon Fuller

Idiot.

Why don't you take up another sport.

because i dont want to i like racing to much

[motorvator]

Originally Posted by team williams 150

its not unsafe at all

What a well thought out and reasoned response.

The way you used the wordplay to dispell any thought that boats slamming into each at racing speed is perfectly safe and acceptable leave me in awe as to your wordcraft abilities.

Oh and here's an apostrophe ', you seem to have run low

[The Force]

Originally Posted by larby

That makes pretty scary reading and totally justifies any concern shown on here about the way the honda fleet was being raced.
Other than that I'm pretty speechless.

James

I thought it was a good report, and while initially worried what an organisation more interested in big ships was going to come up with, it seems to be balanced, factual, and even helpful...

Got no sympathy for people moaning about not being able to get race licenses - like any other motorsport, go get the training, get approved get a license, build your race craft and race. The sport deserves more than a kick the tyres and light the fires attitude....
Finally, on the helmets I notice yet again, cheap polycarbonate helmets designed to make maximum profit coming out of a cheap taiwanise factory are featured.... guys its your head....SM/SA2005 as a min check the specs -

Nothing to do with Honda......

Just my 2 penneth.....

[cider daze]

Originally Posted by cider daze

I now have this boat for sale, http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...STRK:MESELX:IT

One carefull owner,

[PerformanceDodge]

Originally Posted by Jon Fuller

Idiot.

Why don't you take up another sport.

I wonder if he has ever thought about banger racing, that's a contact sport. Could be good at that.

[team williams 150]

Originally Posted by freddy21

I wonder if he has ever thought about banger racing, that's a contact sport. Could be good at that.

so how long have you been racing

[Andy20]

I was there, in the white boat. I have to say that it was not as bad as it looked; the camera angle does not help.

Allot of people seem to say that Honda is/was unsafe, however in the 7 years that I have been involved (4 of which racing) I don’t ever remember anyone having a serious injury, so surely that says something? We had some of the best safety teams and officials that acted quickly and efficiently if there were any problems but I can’t ever remember any one getting badly hurt.

The MAIB report on the tragic Dover accident says that there have been 5 fatal accidents since 1990. None of these accidents are anything to do with the Honda Series.

The video's that are put out on You Tube etc are to draw people in, if we watched a video with boats driving around a coarse and cut all the bits where the boats got close it would be shit! I am sure that other series have similar situations but they don’t have any TV so nothing is recorded. Take Zapcats they have video’s of boats landing on each other and flipping over! Possibly there are too many old men talking about how it used to be back in the day.

Fact of the matter is Powerboat racing in the UK at the moment is shit. No one has money or wants to part with their money. 3C races with 3 boats? 3B races with one boat? V24 races with 5 boats? I don’t know exact numbers but i do know that its crap to watch.

All I am trying to say is maybe there should be less bitching and more combined efforts into some kind of powerboat festival, or new affordable series? I for one would be keen to get involved.

I shall sit back and let you all bitch away at me now, wheather its my spelling or views. I have seen it all before on the last 2 or 3 slag off Honda threads!

[dowdy]

Originally Posted by Jon Fuller

Idiot.

Why don't you take up another sport.

Dont be too hard on him John,he is only 16 and a first season rookie,trying to follow in his dads and grandads powerboat racing shoes,we should encourage the lad.Hows it hangin Dale?Your drivers busted leg mended yet?

[motorvator]

Originally Posted by Andy20

I was there, in the white boat. I have to say that it was not as bad as it looked; the camera angle does not help.

Allot of people seem to say that Honda is/was unsafe, however in the 7 years that I have been involved (4 of which racing) I don’t ever remember anyone having a serious injury, so surely that says something? We had some of the best safety teams and officials that acted quickly and efficiently if there were any problems but I can’t ever remember any one getting badly hurt.

The MAIB report on the tragic Dover accident says that there have been 5 fatal accidents since 1990. None of these accidents are anything to do with the Honda Series.

I just went back on there and took ten or so screen grabs to demonstrate that Honda have just been lucky not to have their own Dover incident.

Thing is the point we are making here is that it should not be glamourised so I won't post them as the site owner I believe has the same opinion as me and would probably rightly ban me!

Jon's point is quite correct that anyone who thinks this is clever should really look at another sport.

[Jon Holmes]

Ill second that.

[Cookee]

Originally Posted by Andy20

I was there, in the white boat. I have to say that it was not as bad as it looked; the camera angle does not help.

And sometimes it takes a video to show how how bad it could have been! I have photos taken of us racing and I would never believe we were that high!

[jonny12t]

Well as for screen grabs i think i would have been the one in question (red circle).

But in all the yrs racing in the series this was the only time i felt in danger, the closeness of the racing was what made it so good, if you are going to make racing so legislated that it becomes a parade, well whats the point.

[motorvator]

Ok, Great let's post some screenshots.

Let me give you a scenario.

You have decided to run a powerboat race. (You being personally or your club or organisation)

To achieve this you will have a list of people as long as your arm to satisfy prior to being allowed to stage your event.

A sample of these will be Environmental groups, Coastal Agencies, Harbour Authorities, Local Councillors, Coastguards, Fisheries, Windfarm Contractors, Local Sailing Groups etc etc. This is all aside of satisfying the various factions of the RYA and insurers.

The majority of the above will have been issued with the latest MAIB report as a matter of course.

Now, out of those possibly 40 odd people that you are going to contact, it is a fairly safe bet that at least a small proportion of them don't share your enthusiasm for burning shedloads of fuel and destroying the planet whilst running at speeds in excess of 20 times that which Stevenson's Rocket was capable of and that at least was on rails and had a chap with a flag walking ahead.

You know the sort?

Well in this scenario I am that person and I've decided that between planting vegetables and protesting the latest building development down the road, I still have plenty of time to put my oar in on this one. I know I'll do a bit of research on my laptop driven by a hand wound generator.

WOW - Google, this is great - copy all.

You are now asked what you are doing to reduce all these risks and your answer will be:

Well as for screen grabs i think i would have been the one in question (red circle).

But in all the yrs racing in the series this was the only time i felt in danger, the closeness of the racing was what made it so good, if you are going to make racing so legislated that it becomes a parade, well whats the point.

so how long have you been racing

because i dont want to i like racing to much

its not unsafe at all

I may be completely wrong, but wasn't the four boat incident from the Isle of Man in 2008, which would make it two years BEFORE the 2010 rules.....

Just remember,
That little white Honda boat shown in that film your all slaging there driving, Beat all the 2 litre boats by a long way in the Cowes Poole Cowes last year,

That should show 'em. Now to the question.

At what point in the future do you expect to receive your approval to put your race on?