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Old 01-11-2010, 08:26 PM   #21
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An interesting argument, but the density / bouyancy thing is I believe rubbish. boat will in theory float higher in salt, but at the same time, that heavier salt water is more reluctant to get out of the way.

Speaking purely from my / our own experience, we only ran as fast, if not faster on the lake, than we did in testing in Poole harbour on the salt.
My beleif is, there's so much bullshit dished out through out the racing season about top speeds, that the said racers need a good reason / excuse for their comparable lack lustre performance when 'timekeepers' are present at records week........result.... it's now a FACT that fresh water is 4% slower!!!...righto.

As I said...Bollocks.

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I can just see the lecture in the Shepperton School for Higher Education (Naval Architecture class) being interupted by a voice from the back of the class shouting the above quote,whilst the lecturer tries to point out the effect of water density on reistance and coefficient of lift.

Ok, for whizzer boats this could be debatable,but for craft with more wetted surface (you know the type,the ones that carry a snorkel for tricky sea conditions),then the above may have more of a bearing.

Ahem!
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Did anyone see the Mythbusters episode where they swam in custard? The added resistance of the thicker liquid was cancelled out by the extra thrust you get by paddling in it, and the average guy was the same speed as regular water... Any difference on the lake would be miniscule surely?

Anyways, are they any interesting boats hitting the lake?
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Well done to Eric and team Cinzano 102.5 mph today great work boys x
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that is quick, well done,any pics yet
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My beleif is, there's so much bullshit dished out through out the racing season about top speeds, that the said racers need a good reason / excuse for their comparable lack lustre performance when 'timekeepers' are present at records week........result.... it's now a FACT that fresh water is 4% slower!!!...righto.

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Your talking to en ex-record holder here matey.

Blimey! by that reckoning we could have given Buzzi a run for his money.
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CUV design Top Speed

Hello everybody,
Not to long ago I denied a certain CUV hull designs top speed.
I was called 'sunshine' for not accepting it...
Actually when we decided for going to Coniston we knew that Fury was having all chances of beating us in the World record, but proving to pass this barrier several times with ease was all our motivation needed.

More so Cinzano felt rock stable the faster we went.

We might squeeze out a few Miles more bevor heading home tomorrow.
It would be easy if we could reduce weight by loosing a crew member, but Simon Woody Power has done that before at Cowes and was disqualified...

Dropping the liferaft is a New Sport since CTC2010, but might not be as populare amongst collegues as it is under Cowes Protest Committee officials...

So keep expectations low, please.

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Hello everybody,
Not to long ago I denied a certain CUV hull designs top speed.
I was called 'sunshine' for not accepting it...
Actually when we decided for going to Coniston we knew that Fury was having all chances of beating us in the World record, but proving to pass this barrier several times with ease was all our motivation needed.

More so Cinzano felt rock stable the faster we went.

We might squeeze out a few Miles more bevor heading home tomorrow.
It would be easy if we could reduce weight by loosing a crew member, but Simon Woody Power has done that before at Cowes and was disqualified...

Dropping the liferaft is a New Sport since CTC2010, but might not be as populare amongst collegues as it is under Cowes Protest Committee officials...

So keep expectations low, please.

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Well done to the team! A K7 badge to add to your blazer lapel!
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Hello everybody,
Not to long ago I denied a certain CUV hull designs top speed.
I was called 'sunshine' for not accepting it...
Actually when we decided for going to Coniston we knew that Fury was having all chances of beating us in the World record, but proving to pass this barrier several times with ease was all our motivation needed.

More so Cinzano felt rock stable the faster we went.

We might squeeze out a few Miles more bevor heading home tomorrow.
It would be easy if we could reduce weight by loosing a crew member, but Simon Woody Power has done that before at Cowes and was disqualified...

Dropping the liferaft is a New Sport since CTC2010, but might not be as populare amongst collegues as it is under Cowes Protest Committee officials...

So keep expectations low, please.

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You could probably have found another 10mph Marcus if two certain "heavy crew members" were left on shore for a couple of runs!!
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Thumbs up Congratulations!

Congratulations to Team Cinzano. An excellent result for all the hard work.

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Hello everybody,
Not to long ago I denied a certain CUV hull designs top speed.
I was called 'sunshine' for not accepting it...
Actually when we decided for going to Coniston we knew that Fury was having all chances of beating us in the World record, but proving to pass this barrier several times with ease was all our motivation needed.

More so Cinzano felt rock stable the faster we went.

We might squeeze out a few Miles more bevor heading home tomorrow.
It would be easy if we could reduce weight by loosing a crew member, but Simon Woody Power has done that before at Cowes and was disqualified...

Dropping the liferaft is a New Sport since CTC2010, but might not be as populare amongst collegues as it is under Cowes Protest Committee officials...

So keep expectations low, please.

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Congrats Markus, Eric and Simon.

102.5mph is absolutely awesome!.....And is almost 10mph quicker than the Max speed achieved on the last leg of the Round Ireland Race back to Galway......Amazing!

How did the setup differ?

Drive height?

Props?......Did you use the 34 Herrings?

Fuel load?

???

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Fastest CUV mono ever?

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Well done Markus,the old girl must have thought what lunatic is hammering me like this.I`m too old for tear arsing up lakes .

Some useless info for you.

A 36ft cigarette did a 73.8 mph race average in light conditions,yet did 88.0mph in practice,trimmed out and min fuel,with 1200hp petrols.This could equate to 81.3mph race average with 1450 hp.

Cinzano did a race average of 81.2 mph in light conditions with 1300 hp,which could equate to 85.5 mph race average with 1450 hp.Now add 19% to this (diff in 36ft average v practice) and it becomes 101.7 mph.

So your right up there doing 102.5 mph.I take it this is the av speed over two runs,so what would have been the very max on one run.

You mention how steady it was.I don`t suppose you fancy cutting the skegs off for more speed,for one shouldn`t swap ends on a lake.Pity you haven`t got shaft drive and rudders,you could always have gone out with min rudder blade.Is it possible to ditch the start up batteries once underway.
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Cinzano just ran 103.25mph
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Hi chaps ,
from a wet and windy Coniston.Photos attached of Cinzano on one of its runs today.1st photo shows MH inspecting the props prior to them being changed for some bright shiny new ones.

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Well done to all of Cinzano crew especially my wonderful hubby Eric he may be a nutter but he sure knows what he is doing when it comes to engines and how to get the best out of them xxx
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Coooooer! Well done you guys! Gold pins all round for you

Robbie & Martin only missed the 100mph at Windere by 1.7 mph and got nought but a Certificate for "ELECTRIFYING" (now owned by Mel for marathon racing).

Great job - keep us posted of progress here please.

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Great Stuff

Eric/Marcus,

What size props are the new ones !.they look great in the snaps
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