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01-10-2010, 06:57 PM
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Charlie, The RYA have applied to the UIM for the 2011 Cowes Torquay Cowes as an international invitation event August 26th - 28th, hosted by the British Powerboat Racing Club.
For shipping best to speak to Mike Bontoft first off, as he has recent experience with Dry Martini & Uno in the mean time I can make further enquiries here.
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Originally Posted by Goinglean
Charlie,
RB11 is 18th - 26th June
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Charlie,
Sounds like you need all these dates printed in one place... to take with you to your meeting.
We also have a possible Harwhich Festival (perhaps as an "Old Beardy" Memorial) around the end of July (if it's held at the same time as this year's was)...
RMYC Poole Needles Trophy in mid-August (usually a couple of weeks before Cowes)
UKOBA South Coast Marathon - mid-September
Plus the possibility of a series, that includes the races above plus Torquay and Plymouth...
Best talk to Dean (Goinglean) who can be emailed via the link below:
http://www.roundbritainrace.co.uk/
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01-10-2010, 07:09 PM
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The reason for posting the above is because they're having a meeting a little after your one Charlie.
Best get talking before things are "set in stone"
http://boatmad.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17021
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01-10-2010, 07:50 PM
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Thank you much appreciated.
We hope to make the race very appealing to all involved, just need to come up with some definite dates that could tie in with some potential sponsors over here.
That gives us a total of eight weeks between RB11 and Cowes......is that enough time to ship over and back again for your teams??
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01-10-2010, 09:35 PM
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[QUOTE=Top Banana;190900]
That gives us a total of eight weeks between RB11 and Cowes......is that enough time to ship over and back again for your teams??[/QUOTE]
Dealing with the very nice people at Peter's and Mays and they said that it would be possible, but very tight, if teams wanted to compete in both the RB 11 and then the NY race and then back for the Cowes at the end of August.
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01-10-2010, 10:27 PM
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US of A - Long Island Marathon
Just caught up on this thread. Trying but failing to understand the debates around classification - but that is my inexperience.
However, it seems that there is broad enthusiasm from this side of the pond to participate if timing, logistics and classification come together in a fair way. Seems like the sort of event that Uno-Embassy ought to attend and enjoy a trundle around the stunning scenery of the eastern US seaboard without any great expectation other than having a great experience.
Rob G
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02-10-2010, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob Gray
Just caught up on this thread. Trying but failing to understand the debates around classification - but that is my inexperience.
However, it seems that there is broad enthusiasm from this side of the pond to participate if timing, logistics and classification come together in a fair way. Seems like the sort of event that Uno-Embassy ought to attend and enjoy a trundle around the stunning scenery of the eastern US seaboard without any great expectation other than having a great experience.
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Rob that is exactly the type of atmosphere we are trying to create for these races over here.
Back in the old days, there was one race a year...Miami to Nassau... and the sportsmen would prepare all year and have a great time, win lose or draw. Along the way, great strides were made in the development of safe offshore powerboat designs that we all enjoy today.
Hope to see that great Uno-Embassy over here in the future.
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02-10-2010, 05:48 PM
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Peters and May (enquiries@petersandmay.com) 023 8048 0500. Handled all the shipping, They can also do all the ground transportation. They are not the cheapest but are very good and reliable. Embassy came directly into Tacoma Washington (West coast). When both boats got finished if shipped from Tacoma they would not have arrived in Southampton until August 15th, Sometimes boats can be tied up in customs for 2 weeks, (Embassy was on it's US arrival). So both boats were trucked to the East coast and left from Baltimore, MD, and loaded on the Baltic Highway. Ship departed 16/07 and arrived Southampton 30/07, Boatloads co. delivered both boats to Drivers dry berthing a few days later. Charges for Dry Martini, Dollars
$9905 Freight and charges
$91 UK import handling
$140 UK customs clearance
$200 Insurance
I also had to pay VAT but this would not have been necessary if the boat was returning. DM resides in the UK and we will be at Cowes for many years to come (God willing). I am not sure how it works over here but I would have had to put up a bond, comparable to the VAT amount, if my boat was returning to the US. Prior to this many boats never made the return journey and were lost in the UK no VAT being paid.
Cheers Mike
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02-10-2010, 06:13 PM
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I've shipped a few boats over using Peters & May, and would say that they're probably the best.
As good as they are though, they can't guarantee shipping if there isn't space available, so I'd be concerned if I was working with short lead times!
Plus, things sometimes do go wrong, I shipped a truck from Baltimore to Southampton a few years ago, it arrived at Baltimore on time, but just as the docks were closed for several days due to a bomb scare, it missed the ship, and couldn't go onto another for several weeks.
Also, when I shipped my Spectre, Peters and May informed me of a 2 month wait time for space, but managed to pull some strings and got the British Searay importer to delay the shipping one of their boats, and giving the space to me!!!
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02-06-2011, 08:38 AM
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Just out of interest, anyone thinking of racing in this event this year?
I will be in New York that weekend and would love to see some english boats in the fleet.
I know Charlie has agreed with Peters & May to provide logistical services with a view to allowing any boats competing in Cowes to be shipped in time for the Long Island race.
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02-06-2011, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by billy no boat
Just out of interest, anyone thinking of racing in this event this year?
I will be in New York that weekend and would love to see some english boats in the fleet.
I know Charlie has agreed with Peters & May to provide logistical services with a view to allowing any boats competing in Cowes to be shipped in time for the Long Island race.
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I have booked my flight / hotel today, to go over as a spectator again.
La Motta's is reasonable for food & drink.< LINK>
Probably worth coming down to see the 50' Outerlimits Going Lean boat.
It's very cool - But Dean has put far too much pink on it for my liking.
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02-06-2011, 07:47 PM
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Thanks John.
We are flying from london on Thursday evening but not booked our hotels yet. I heard Dean's boat maybe going which would be great, pink and all!
Whats it like for spectators there? Do we need to find a way of getting on the water?
Thanks.
Howard
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02-06-2011, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by billy no boat
Thanks John.
We are flying from london on Thursday evening but not booked our hotels yet. I heard Dean's boat maybe going which would be great, pink and all!
Whats it like for spectators there? Do we need to find a way of getting on the water?
Thanks.
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Guy La Motta will sort you out with a boat to go out in, also a great friend of Cowes - John Henry Falk is working in NY this summer for Sunseeker - So we have options.
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03-06-2011, 03:01 PM
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John and Howard, we will work out something for you guys to get out on a boat for the race.
John, Dean told me that you were the one who suggested all that pink in the first place. That is a great boat for timing and scoring.....it will never be mixed up with another entrant.
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03-06-2011, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Top Banana
John, Dean told me that you were the one who suggested all that pink in the first place.
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Would love to take the credit, but I am a "few bob" behind the Going Lean brand.
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08-09-2011, 05:48 PM
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Any more information around about this race?
i am flying out on Thursday 22nd for the weekend so if anyone else is going over it would be great to meet up for a drink.
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13-09-2011, 03:32 PM
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HORBA is extending a special invitation to enter the Second Annual Don Aronow Memorial Around Long Island Marathon.
This is old school racing just like in the 60's 70's and 80's. With real open ocean racing, you don't have to run 10/10ths, you just have to have a well prepared boat and crew who know how to read a chart.
Last year the event was won by a 1987 30 foot Sonic, with twin small blocks and Alpha drives with showers on them. Pure pleasure boat, not a special built race boat.
There are many ports around Long Island for refueling along the way. The winner stopped in Shinnecock last year for a refueling stop.
There is a small boat class also, that starts before the bigger boats. Make it a once in a lifetime experience......do it just like the legneds of the past did. A great way to end your boating season....nice memories all winter.
Presented by HORBA and Billy Frenz's National Powerboat Assocoiation. www.nationalpowerboat.com
Smallest entry for the small boat class is an 18 foot Donzi and we have the largest at 50 feet.
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13-09-2011, 03:47 PM
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Old School Racing
OMG!
The Brits have plenty to learn from the other side of the pond re. Old School Racing.
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13-09-2011, 04:04 PM
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OMG!
The Brits have plenty to learn from the other side of the pond re. Old School Racing.
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John......nice to see you survived the Cowes Classic.
Here are some old school records for this race, brings back some great memories.
Past Winners:
1959: Jim Lacy 17' HUNTER w/70 HP Merc O/B 8 hrs and 30 min
avg: 34.2 mph 280 miles
1960: Chuck Mercereau 17' POWER CAT w/2-80 HP Merc O/B's 6 hrs
avg: 46.7 mph 280 miles
1961: Sam Griffith 31'Bertram GlASS MOPPIE 2-330 HP Chryslers 6 hrs 22 min
avg: 44 mph 280 miles
1962: Jim Wynne 19' Glastron GULFSTREAM 2-100 HP Volvos 6 hrs and 2 min
avg: 42.9 mph 258.8 miles
1963: Gene Bianco 19'ELTRO 2-100 HP Merc O/B's 5 hrs and 26 min
avg: 44.2 mph 240 miles
1964: Odell Lewis 25' Bertram MONA LOU 2-310 HP MerCruisers 5 hrs and 6 min
avg: 48 mph 245 miles
1965: Stanley Humes 20' OWENS 225 HP MerCruiser 7 hrs and 45 min
avg: 30.2 mph 234 miles
1966: Alan Brown 28'Donzi BROAD JUMPER 2-530HP Holman& Moodys 4 hrs & 42 min
avg: 53.8 mph 253 miles
1967: Dick Genth 28'Formula THUNDERBIRD IV 450 HP MerCruiser 5 hrs & 23 min
avg: 47 mph 253 miles
1968: Bill Sirois 31'Bertram SIDEWINDER 2-475 HP MerCruisers 3 hrs & 59 min
Fred Keikaufer
avg: 63.5 mph 253 miles
1969:Peter Rittmaster 31' Bertram AMERICAN MOPPIE 2-475HP MerCs 4 HRS& 33 min
avg: 48.9 mph 222.5 miles
1989:Stu Hayim 32' Skater, RECOVERY set the record for this course at 3 hr 6min
with Joey Impresscia on the throttles.
2010:Joe DeFusco 30'Sonic 30SS "Team Sonic" 2-310 small block PCM V8 in 6hr 15min. 271 mile course.
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