Endurance Racing, the future?? - Page 2

Jon Fuller · 30-08-2008, 08:36 PM

Well, I don't think so. I'm really not ya commitee type.
Also, ever since I've been involved with racing, I've campained that no one in a position to steer any aspects of the rules, courses etc, (ie, an organiser) should be alowed to race, so if Nick & I intend to carry on racing the 32, that would be just the kind of conflict I think wrong.

There's no reason why Boatmad wouldn't / Couldn't be used by any club formed, as a hub for communications, but unless I quit wanting to race, the organising will have to be done by someone else.

BigBird1964 · 30-08-2008, 09:17 PM

Jon

It seems to me that some of the problems in the past have occured when non-racing individuals try to direct operations.

We need people with experience and knowledge to run this type of club and any conflict of interest with regards to competing, could easily be avoided by making sure that no one person has total autonomy and that decisions are taken by an appointed committee.

Put to one side for a minute the huge amount of time this would take, I truely believe that racing organised by racers for racers has the best chance of taking this sport back towards the success of the events of old.

After all, If the organisers aren't involved in the racing, how will they ever know what does or doesn't work for future events?

Just my thoughts

revenger27 · 31-08-2008, 12:31 AM

Cliff,

It was 2000 not 2001,

Thought we had put it behind us ?

See you in Torquay !!!

http://www.getaforecast.com/weatherpix-seatemp.htm

Cheers John

FLYING FISH · 31-08-2008, 06:44 AM

If you want an accurate forecast Revenger 27, I suggest the following.

In deference to the Archbishop of Canterbury and the Royal Commission for Political Correctness,it was announced today that the local climate in the UK should no longer be referred to as `English weather`.In order to avoid offending a now sizable portion of the population,it will now be referred to as `Muslim weather`.In other words `partly Sunni but mostly Shi`ite`.

Jon Fuller · 31-08-2008, 07:25 AM

Now that's funny!

TimB-C · 31-08-2008, 08:32 AM

Brilliant Graham

Jon Fuller · 31-08-2008, 10:53 AM

Who would be interested in taking part in a timed trial (record run) from Poole to Cherbourg in say, May, or June '09?

Like the last one run in '96, we'd probably run over, maybe an 'overnight' in Cherbourg, and a fun run back in company the floowing day. It could be either a race, incorporating record attempts for each class, or, as in '96, just record attempts, with boats leaving every 5 mins, and running against the clock.

I have absolutely no idea what the licence status would need to be, obviously it would be good to run like the CTC race on day licences where required, but that may not be allowed with a cross channel event.

If by then a club has been formed, or ressurected, and the members are genuine competitors, maybe most would have real licences anyway. We clearly need to have licence status as an early point of discussion with the RYA as far as endurance goes.

But firstly, who would actually subscribe to such a race?

For anyone wondering, Poole to Cherbourg is roughly 70 statute miles each way, but obviously it's quite 'open water'.

On the last one, the commitee boat ran across after all the race boats to 'sweep up'.

It was sponsored by Cetrek and OOD'd by Geoff Ward (at that time, MD of Cetrek I think). Maybe we could tap them up for some help, and the old silverware could become 'perpetual'. BTW, does anyone know if Geoff is still a registered OOD?? Penpromo, you must know. He was quite a 'good egg'.

A night in Frog would be a larf.

Our trophy for 1st in sports boat class in 1996.

I might give our chum at Motor Boat and Yachting, Hugo a call, maybe he could do an article on it to give it a kick start. they reported on it in '96 after the event, but what it needs is some 'ink' before.

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TimB-C · 31-08-2008, 10:56 AM

Moi

BigBird1964 · 31-08-2008, 11:16 AM

Oui, moi aussi!

hunton69 · 31-08-2008, 12:59 PM

I would jump at that one John. Remember reading about the guy in the mag taking a ride in the big rib. Is that the one andy owns now

Jon Fuller · 31-08-2008, 01:09 PM

Sorry, no ribs allowed! They're just not sea-worthy enough.

Only joking.

Yeah, that Techno was Fabio's own boat, he had just done a round britain record attempt and Pascoe talked him into letting him, Dredge and David Sewell run it over on the challenge, and Fabio's truck & trailer met them at Chergourg to collect it and take on home to Como.

Roger Fletcher (of Debenhams /Shockwave fame) bought it off Fabio then Andy bought it from him.

Mike Lloyd · 31-08-2008, 01:23 PM

If our boat is ready we would be up for that one.

The timed trial was a good one. You had all your instruments taped up except for the rev counter and they took your watches away as well. You also had an observer on board to make sure you you didn't cheat. You then gave the RMYC your expected time of departure Poole and arrival in Cherbourg. We ran across on the Friday and I was within my expected time by 7 mins because seeing Cherbourg I flattened the throttles, silly boy. Some of the guys got to within 2.5 mins of their stated time. Obviously knew their boats VERY well.

You then raced back together on the Sunday spending the whole of Saturday in the bars in Cherbourg. We tried to race on the Sunday but discovered that the Frenchies had half filled my fuel tanks with water!!

It's a great weekend though. Could be a good one Jon.

blind dog · 05-09-2008, 11:23 PM

any updates on anything?

Martin The Talker · 08-09-2008, 07:42 PM

Regarding the question of Geoff Warde MBE., Yes, he must still be an approved official.
His details are in PB1, allowing him to officiate as: OOD, & Safety Officer.

Hope this helps.

blind dog · 10-09-2008, 10:53 PM

with the poole/cherbourg has there been any interest.im up for it

Jon Fuller · 10-09-2008, 11:42 PM

yeah, had lunch with Mike today.

Quite a few interested parties, including Johnny Caulcutt.

Poole Cherbourg, or Cowes Cherbourg?

What motors you gonna put in it then???

Captain Chaos · 11-09-2008, 12:09 AM

i know most of the Proper boats wouldn't have an issue. but would those whom might do it as a "rally" hit a barrier as far as fuel capacity goes if it were to be the few extra miles from cowes?

ciao! · 11-09-2008, 12:43 AM

The only way forward in my opinion is to have ML running the "proposed" races next year.

Then:

Me doing the web stuff

JF doing the Boatmad bit

Annie B - doing what she does best (rewriting rules in a week)

JP supporting (RYA)

Norman Taylor to scrute

Fiddy to sort out the cranes

Lets have some good races out there next year!

Jon Fuller · 11-09-2008, 07:58 AM

Mike doesn't want to 'do everything', there needs to be an association formed, with more than one person. They need to be capable & willing to get stuck in (with the emphasis on capable)

Web, maybe, not sure it's pivotal for a sucessful race season.

Boatmad looks after itself.

Annie, I think, would rather sit back and enjoy without stress.

RYA, yes.

Norman Taylor needs a winge bypass and I'm not sure medical science is that far advanced yet. Would rather see Rob Beakhust and his team at the scrutineering helm, or failing that, some new blood.

Fiddy + Cranes!!! is this Hancock's half hour?? There's no one better, or more carefull than Gordon McMath.

Jon Fuller · 11-09-2008, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Chaos

i know most of the Proper boats wouldn't have an issue. but would those whom might do it as a "rally" hit a barrier as far as fuel capacity goes if it were to be the few extra miles from cowes?

mmmn, maybe, but poole cherbourg is only 70-ish statute miles, starting from Cowes might make it 85 (need to check, but that'd be about it) would have thought most boats would be able to set up to run as far as that.

I guess we need to ask what most peoples distance limits are But remember, it's primarilly aimed at endurance race boats. (the future)