london monte-carlo - Page 2

hunton69 · 01-06-2008, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TimB-C

www.londonmontecarlo.com

We are now putting or should I say JM is

the site to-gether..
Classes up soon and some info too.

This will sound a bit of an odd way about but provisional FINISH date will be
June 22nd 2012....

It will be an event in to parts, but we are planning mini marathons in 09/10/11

I believe in the present climate trying to run this in 2010 0r 2011 will make it a non starter.

Any questions or input please cantact me by phone....

N.B. I/we reserve the right to refuse entry to any competitor or boat, without reason.

Nearly 3000 miles

IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. with quality boats, may be cruisers. Reason £25,000 on fuel alone, UK struggles to get a great fleet of boats on a £100 entry fee race. oh and offshore boat builders in UK are non existent

BigBird1964 · 01-06-2008, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by hunton69

IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. with quality boats, may be cruisers. Reason £25,000 on fuel alone, UK struggles to get a great fleet of boats on a £100 entry fee race. oh and offshore boat builders in UK are non existent

With positive support like this, how can we fail to have a great future for UK powerboating

hunton69 · 01-06-2008, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BigBird1964

With positive support like this, how can we fail to have a great future for UK powerboating

I am in RB8 are you?

have you any idea what it costs to enter one of these races

Our fuel capacity is 1500 litres don't get much change out of £2000 just to fill her up

TimB-C · 01-06-2008, 01:28 PM

Thanks Big Bird, could only think of a rude reply.................

But then we have only been around for too long and he??????????

BigBird1964 · 01-06-2008, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by hunton69

I am in RB8 are you?

have you any idea what it costs to enter one of these races

Our fuel capacity is 1500 litres don't get much change out of £2000 just to fill her up

No, I'm not in RB08 but I am working towards competing in future marathon events including LM, and yes, I am aware of the costs that are likely to be involved. As a competitor in RB08 you should know better than most that without positive support from all involved, there would be no race!

Let's not knock the ideas of others, as it can do more damage than good to this sport that we all enjoy.

hunton69 · 01-06-2008, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TimB-C

Thanks Big Bird, could only think of a rude reply.................

But then we have only been around for too long and he??????????

So did you do RB69 or 84 and are you in RB8 and if so did you use your own cash

TimB-C · 01-06-2008, 01:42 PM

NO but I raced Class 1 for 29 years.....................

hunton69 · 01-06-2008, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TimB-C

NO but I raced Class 1 for 29 years.....................

But the thread was about LM which is slightly different than a 45 minute class 1 race.

TimB-C · 01-06-2008, 01:52 PM

Point 1 I have actually raced

Point 2 I have never raced for 45 mins only 180 miles plus Offshore racing ALL over the world.............not puddle racing..

But hey what do i know................

hunton69 · 01-06-2008, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TimB-C

Point 1 I have actually raced

Point 2 I have never raced for 45 mins only 180 miles plus Offshore racing ALL over the world.............not puddle racing..

But hey what do i know................

Having read many posts of yours you know everything

You disrespected someone on here who was interested in the 2 scoops boat getting on tv.

BigBird1964 · 01-06-2008, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by hunton69

But the thread was about LM which is slightly different than a 45 minute class 1 race.

The POINT of the thread was getting support to ressurect a great marathon event. Good luck with RB08, but have the decency to support others who are prepared to offer you the same support in your chosen event.

This is typical of so many threads on this forum, it decends into bitching and dick swinging, let's all try and support powerboating, it seems to be only thing we can all agree on (occasionally)

Tim, for what its worth, I am looking forward to the challenges of future events and hope that I will have the oportunity to be a part of them, good luck with everything.

hunton69 · 01-06-2008, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BigBird1964

The POINT of the thread was getting support to ressurect a great marathon event. Good luck with RB08, but have the decency to support other who are prepared to offer you the same support in your chosen event.

This is typical of so many threads on this forum, it decends into bitching and dick swinging, let's all try and support powerboating, it seems to be only thing we can all agree on (occasionally)

Tim, for what its worth, I am looking forward to the challenges of future events and hope that I will have the oportunity to be a part of them, good luck with everything.

I look forward to seeing you in LM one day. I hope it takes place as i too love the sport i was just being realistic.

blind dog · 01-06-2008, 03:21 PM

being an optimist i think it opens a lot of chances for sponsorship from companys abroad as hopefully will get european cover

Adam · 02-06-2008, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by hunton69

IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. with quality boats, may be cruisers. Reason £25,000 on fuel alone, UK struggles to get a great fleet of boats on a £100 entry fee race. oh and offshore boat builders in UK are non existent

Would like to disagree - I think there has to be a future for long distance events - but there maybe many different approaches and changes to the designs and types of craft.

With environmental issues and fuel costs etc - changes are taking place with the possibilities of more high efficiecny hull forms being built. Boats with much less power and overall slower but quite possibly keeping up better or good average speeds.

Also much work going on with increased engine / drive efficiencies / fuel type etc.

So look out for some changes!

verytricky · 02-06-2008, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BigBird1964

Quote:

Originally Posted by hunton69

IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. with quality boats, may be cruisers. Reason £25,000 on fuel alone, UK struggles to get a great fleet of boats on a £100 entry fee race. oh and offshore boat builders in UK are non existent

With positive support like this, how can we fail to have a great future for UK powerboating

Actually - I think there is a big issue with the organisers of the events. I am not the only well known racer to be banned by a club from entering 'their' race in the past year, and that sortof attitude is playing a big part in killing the sport.

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Originally Posted by TimB-C

N.B. I/we reserve the right to refuse entry to any competitor or boat, without reason.

ORDA have inserted the same clause in their World Championships for Guernsey.

SO if you want to win a powerboat race these days, first you need to organise the race, then you need to ban anyone from entering who could beat you in the race...

Adam · 02-06-2008, 12:06 PM

I don't really agree with wording of the clause and would always hope that it would never be needed etc.

I think you will find out that it has been in many clubs advance programmes / entry forms for many years - certainly remember UKOBA and others doing it in the 80's

RHINO · 02-06-2008, 01:53 PM

hi all, the clause tricky is referring to has been removed and he is aware of this, the rya have just not published the rule book yet.

TimB-C · 02-06-2008, 01:59 PM

Marc I hope you enter and if you can take line honours in your class or even the event....Good for you.....................................

just play nicely

verytricky · 02-06-2008, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RHINO

hi all, the clause tricky is referring to has been removed and he is aware of this, the rya have just not published the rule book yet.

Sorry - I am not aware of this clause being removed. Since I raised the issue there has been no feedback to me on the removal of this clause. And as of this exact instant in time the clause is still in the Advance Instructions which you can download from the ORDA website and the same clause is in the instructions on the Guernsey organisers website:

5.1.16 The Organising Committee reserves the right to refuse an entry without giving any reason.

Try remember this is a World Championship event, not a 'championship of the people we like' event.

http://www.orda.co.uk/media/AdvanceP...ernsey2008.pdf
http://www.guernsey2008.worldoffshore.com/

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Originally Posted by TimB-C

Marc I hope you enter and if you can take line honours in your class or even the event....Good for you.....................................

just play nicely

I would like to enter, and I would like to finish.... I will try play nicely, I promice.

I do have a big injustice tree on my shoulder, and it does kick in from time to time. Personally I feel that any event that is an open entry event should not have any restriction on entants by the organisers, as this has and will lead to issues with the sport. If someone is a problem, like for example someone is constantly fiddling with other peoples boats, then the National Authority should ban them, or place a restriction on them entering an event.

The organisers can take their concerns to the National Authority , have a 'hearing' and get a decision - it should not be up to the organisers - unless the event is advertised as a closed event, or an invitational event.

RHINO · 02-06-2008, 05:41 PM

marc, i can assure you that rule has been removed even if the paperwork still shows it,also the worlds are run under uim rules 203.02 page 44 of uim book which states no national authority or organising committee can refuse entry unless already on a ban.that is in uim book 2008 ,is that clear enough!!