New Class Of Racing - Page 3

flightracingteam · 30-08-2006, 11:27 AM

We have been asked about TV coverage and PR

The PR machine that we have lined up is probably One of the best i have come across, as for TV coverage if we can get the support of the racers who are the most important people then TV coverage will follow. The whole aim of the new class is to promote Powerboat racing in a professional manner and move the whole sport up a gear and bring it back to where it should be.

flightracingteam · 30-08-2006, 11:32 AM

How big is your boat Roofer

Cookee · 30-08-2006, 12:22 PM

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Originally posted by flightracingteam

OCRDA the weight is for the boat engine and equipment ready to race no fuel.
Hope that answers your question Bob

Once again only IMVHO this is totally not a workable proposition - what happens if there is fuel in the tank? would you have to turn up, get weighed and then go off and refuel? What do you do with residual fuel? How could you weigh a boat post race when it needs to be done - you would have to remove all the fuel left in a boat?

A better proposition would be to weigh the boat including residual fuel excluding crew - crew weight could be added seperately afterwards if necessary!

roofer · 30-08-2006, 12:28 PM

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Originally posted by flightracingteam
How big is your boat Roofer

25' 3"

verytricky · 30-08-2006, 12:34 PM

With weight, you could have a 'finish' weight. You need to finish the race at the minimum weight for your class/Hp. Like in V24 at the moment, they weigh you coming out the water, and you have to weigh the minimum at that point. If you have fuel at the end of the race that counts towards your weight as you carried the weight for the course of the race.

- I think this could be very workable!

flightracingteam · 30-08-2006, 12:46 PM

Cookee if the min weight is with no fuel if you weigh the boat post race and it has sum fuel left in the tanks it will weigh more then the min weight and that is ok it can not weigh less then the min weight

KINPACIFIST · 30-08-2006, 01:08 PM

tHE OBJECT OF hp/WEIGHT RATIO IS TO KEEP THINGS CLOSE. iF THERE IS 1 BOAT THAT 20MPH FASTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE THE SERIES WOULD DIE VERY QUICKLY....KEEP IT CLOSE, KEEP IT INTERESTING. nO GOOD BEING THE FASTEST IF YOU HAVE NO ONE TO RACE...BE SENSIBLE.

verytricky · 30-08-2006, 01:20 PM

The Caps Lock key is on the left hand side of the keyboard, middle row...

BluFin · 30-08-2006, 01:25 PM

Dont think I'll be adding 629Kg

Matt · 30-08-2006, 01:26 PM

Why the shouting?

It removes too many of the "pre-race" variables (design, construction etc).

The race begins on the drawing board, not on the start line.

The person that designs, builds and rigs a light, strong, boat, and then races it the best deserves to win. The individuals decision is then whether to have a short light boat that's good in the rough, or a long light boat, or a long heavy boat, etc. Leave teams the flexibility to decide for themselves what they think will win races.

Implement a variety of courses (or even a mixture of leg types on the same race) - some short where smaller, quicker cornering boats will perform better, some longer where larger boats will perform. And let the weather do it's thing.

Time and time again classes attempt to penalise the the guys who spend the time and money putting together the best rig to allow the "also rans" a look in. If you are an also ran, you should learn from the faster guys and aspire to beat them next time - not penalise them to slow them down.

Keep the "formula" as simple as possible to avoid ambiguity and misinterpretation of the rules.. e.g.

<30. HP to perhaps 730hp (ie allowing a pair of mercruiser small blocks)

30'+ allow mebbe 1200hp.

Perhaps also an additional <25' class as well.

Putting high weight limits in is a fools errand and discourages good boat design and rigging.

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Originally posted by KINPACIFIST
tHE OBJECT OF hp/WEIGHT RATIO IS TO KEEP THINGS CLOSE. iF THERE IS 1 BOAT THAT 20MPH FASTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE THE SERIES WOULD DIE VERY QUICKLY....KEEP IT CLOSE, KEEP IT INTERESTING. nO GOOD BEING THE FASTEST IF YOU HAVE NO ONE TO RACE...BE SENSIBLE.

Matt · 30-08-2006, 01:32 PM

Or, run a one design series. V24 would be great if a promoter wanted to step up to the plate again.

BluFin · 30-08-2006, 01:42 PM

Well put matt, IMVHO the lower "Classes" are a bit lardy on the weights

stumpy · 30-08-2006, 02:10 PM

Gary, can you arrange sponsorship packages for passionate powerboat racers who are desperate to get back into the sport, but budgets forbid!!!!

P.S. Hows that loverley lady of yours!

verytricky · 30-08-2006, 02:15 PM

I still think V24 is the best 'package'

However, there are limitations which I find frustrating, and an open class would be better for me personally. I want to tinker and play and change and add a second effing battery!

This new class promices to allow me to do that.

Running twin 2.5 efi's - the old 6 litre class type boat - would that fit in the under 500hp range? or are twin 2.5 efi's more then 500 Hp?

Matt · 30-08-2006, 02:24 PM

I think my post above appears more negative than I intend.
For me personally, it wouldn't push the right buttons.....but......money talks, and people vote with their feet.
That's why P1 works, and there's no reason why a "mini" P1 couldn't either. But given sufficient resources of my own to build a class, I'd look to returning to a purer form of racing along the lines I described.
But given that I don't, I think it's excellent that Mr Flight is up there prepared to splash some of his cash to support the sport!

Matt · 30-08-2006, 02:25 PM

Mebbe I should buy a V24 and we (plus any others who want to join our "club") agree a relaxed set of rules and do our own thing.

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Originally posted by verytricky
I still think V24 is the best 'package'

However, there are limitations which I find frustrating, and an open class would be better for me personally. I want to tinker and play and change and add a second effing battery!

This new class promices to allow me to do that.

Running twin 2.5 efi's - the old 6 litre class type boat - would that fit in the under 500hp range? or are twin 2.5 efi's more then 500 Hp?

verytricky · 30-08-2006, 02:35 PM

1st rule of Matts V24 Club:

You can not weigh over 24 stone!

flightracingteam · 30-08-2006, 04:11 PM

OK SO YOU WANT TO GO RACING IF YOU BOAT IS 18 FEET AND YOU HAVE A 130 / 140 ON THE BACK GO OUT OCR A CLASS ITS GOOD HARD RACING AND ITS FUN.

IF YOU HAVE 200HP ON THE BOAT GO OUT CLASS 3

IF YOU WANT TO RACE WITH MORE HP WERE DO YOU GO???

YOU CAN GO P1 BUT YOU WILL NEED TO LUG YOUR RIG ALL ROUND EUROPE RACE WITH SPEED LIMITS AND HAVE A LOT OF CASH .YOU CAN GO CLASS 1 BUT YOU WILL NEED A DEEP WALLET. SO IF YOU ARE LOOKING TO RACE IN A CLASS WITH UP TO 500HP OR UP 1000HP IN THE UK THIS MAY BE IT

verytricky · 30-08-2006, 05:10 PM

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Originally posted by verytricky
The Caps Lock key is on the left hand side of the keyboard, middle row...

flightracingteam · 30-08-2006, 05:16 PM

sorry verytricky i was shouting are you comeing out to play if so let me no and i can send you sum info as soon as i have it