New ORC Chairman

[BluFin]

At Least 3 of them should go in the dustbin and be replaced by:
1.Pure Platnium Gents Club
2. Barbarellas Diamonds
3. You & Me Bar
all or any of the above would offer the same input, but my god they would make meeting & Forums more fun .

Hardly a surprise the RYA have made there position clear from the outset. Still look at it this way 2 dollars to the pound ya boat bits are cheaper.

All gonna be with the WPPA in a year or two anyway so it dont matter


WELCOME TO THE REVOLUTION

Give a guy a fair crack at least, who knows ya race entries or licence application could get rejected !! OOPS !!!

[OCRDA]

Originally Posted by Safety

PB1 2005 lists 16, but not all have a vote, I think eligible clubs for 2007 are:-

Allhallows
BIBOA
BPRC
F4SA
OCRDA
ORDA
RMYC
Royal Southern YC
Thundercats (M2M)
UKOBA
WORK
Windermere
Zapcats

Which makes 13, I know - but there may or may not have been abstention.

And WWRC although not yet eligible to vote !!

Not sure what problems you all have with Gary !! He has actually been more actively in control of the ORC's actions than anyone in the 18 years i have been racing !! No point letting your personal greivances influence our sport !!
lets see some offers of help & support !! this could just be the refreshment we all need.

[boyracer]

Originally Posted by OCRDA

And WWRC although not yet eligible to vote !!

Not sure what problems you all have with Gary !! He has actually been more actively in control of the ORC's actions than anyone in the 18 years i have been racing !! No point letting your personal greivances influence our sport !!
lets see some offers of help & support !! this could just be the refreshment we all need.

Well, OK but reluctantly. Of course, with all due respect, the guy is a circuit racer and has never done a proper offshore race in his life so he know nothing about that area of the sport. But then again if you think about it that doesn't seem to matter anymore. ALL races including Class 1 & P1 are circuit races now just at higher speeds so I suppose it's immaterial. Thank goodness they have Mark Pascoe and Chris Strictland on the ORC committee, people who really know what true offshore racing entails, just in case it does come back sometime.

[Jon Fuller]

Originally Posted by boyracer

Thank goodness they have Mark Pascoe and Chris Strictland on the ORC committee, people who really know what true offshore racing entails, just in case it does come back sometime.

MMMmmnnn, but will Pascoe stay, given the recent changes? spose he might, if he's gonna be actively racing again.

[OCRDA]

Originally Posted by boyracer

Well, OK but reluctantly. Of course, with all due respect, the guy is a circuit racer and has never done a proper offshore race in his life so he know nothing about that area of the sport. But then again if you think about it that doesn't seem to matter anymore. ALL races including Class 1 & P1 are circuit races now just at higher speeds so I suppose it's immaterial. Thank goodness they have Mark Pascoe and Chris Strictland on the ORC committee, people who really know what true offshore racing entails, just in case it does come back sometime.

My appologies you obviously know him better than I do !! I was unaware that Gary had done any Circuit Racing but then I have only known about his Offshore Racing since the early 90's !!
Good luck to him anyway !!

Bob

[Jon Fuller]

Maybe I've had my head in the sand, very probable in fact, but as you seem to know, could you just fill us in on what Gary has done racing wise (class's, amount done, success etc). I'm not picking holes, I genuinly want to know, as I've been around Offshore racing for a while, and had never even heard his name till it popped up on here a few months ago.

I'd be very interested, and it may even help with his cause, as far as receiving the respect he'll need to properly fullfill the position of ORC Chairman.

regards

JF

Originally Posted by OCRDA

I have only known about his Offshore Racing since the early 90's !!

Bob

[verytricky]

Originally Posted by CB1

And not forgeting HOTBOATS.

Hotboats was not able to vote as they had not at that time run a race event. Same reason why the V24 Powerboat Club was not able to vote. Our first event will only be at the end of this year...

[OCRDA]

Originally Posted by verytricky

Hotboats was not able to vote as they had not at that time run a race event. Same reason why the V24 Powerboat Club was not able to vote. Our first event will only be at the end of this year...

And same reason WWRC could not vote !!

[OCRDA]

Originally Posted by Jon Fuller

Maybe I've had my head in the sand, very probable in fact, but as you seem to know, could you just fill us in on what Gary has done racing wise (class's, amount done, success etc). I'm not picking holes, I genuinly want to know, as I've been around Offshore racing for a while, and had never even heard his name till it popped up on here a few months ago.

I'd be very interested, and it may even help with his cause, as far as receiving the respect he'll need to properly fullfill the position of ORC Chairman.

regards

JF

The bits i remember !!

AYC basic 1989 black ring 16 / 90 yam (Same year i started in OCR)

OCR 1992 - 94 20 black ring 20 XR2 National Boatfinder

OCR 1995 Phantom 18 XR2

OCR 1996 back to ring 18 (The Red Mike Ring Special with Gold Trimmings XR2 (This one he bought off me)

2004 one or two wins 3rd National Championship Phantom 19 yam 130 Going well untill he hit one of the channel marks in Plymouth.

2007 Ring 24 inboard Brassmonkey !!


This is just the bits I remember & i know he has been involved with boats for some time !! Fairly sure he never did Circuit though. I am sure if you ask nicely that Gary can help you with the other bits.

Bob

["Old beardy"]

Originally Posted by OCRDA

The bits i remember !!

OCR 1992 - 94 20 black ring 20 XR2 National Boatfinder


Bob

If my memory serves me correct, Gary`s first OCR National race was at Southampton in 1993.

["Old beardy"]

Originally Posted by OCRDA

The bits i remember !!



OCR 1996 back to ring 18 (The Red Mike Ring Special with Gold Trimmings XR2 (This one he bought off me)


Bob

Was later than 1996 cos you were racing it at both Quiberon and Dunoon. (Sorry to be picky Bob).

[BluFin]

All joking aside, never meet Gary dont know him, But seems to have poured hours into Hotboats over the last 6 months and taken knocks along the way. He is still here still slogging & still taking knocks. Best of luck to ya.
My thoughts, the ORC needs a proactive "Chairperson" to try and save & promote racing as a whole. At some point that will mean a locking of horns with the establishment to truley represent racing not ones own comfy coccoon.
It's finding somebody with big enough ba**s to do it (guess that makes it chairman).
Gary being totally up and open so many of the Hotboat posts were a play on words & very evasive, maybe it's your SOH but dont half annoy the fek out of most readers here. Dont carry it over to the ORC chair. Shoot from the hip not the lip
All the best & hope it goes well

[CB1]

nothing against the guy. He just needs to be more transparent and truthfull about what's going on

[Martin The Talker]

Just to put the record straight - The BPRC did NOT get a vote !

The rules state that a club must have organised (ie have done, not going to do this season !) a race in the last two years.
The Cowes races have been organised by KBL (Now P1 powerbats) in the relevant timescale !

I cannot comment on other clubs, but the rule was strictly applied, in relation to which were qualified to vote.

Martin.

[Pennpromo]

As the departing ORC Chairman, (at the next ORC meeting), I would wish Gary all the best. He needs your support. One of the reasons that I stepped down was that I was fed up with too much political infighting. At the end of the day we all love the sport, we would all compete still, if we didn't have so many excuses: too old, bad back, family, work, money, etc etc.
This is a very very small sport, it needs to draw together, to be lead with conviction and a sense of fairness, with no hidden agendas. I hope that is what I brought to the ORC and I sincerely hope that Gary will carry this ethos on ...
So come on guys rally round and give him all the help he needs.

[Martin The Talker]

In reply to Pennpromo ........
Simon,
I totally agree with you. The sport is sadly very prone to in-fighting & similar divisive behaviour.
It is, as you say a small sport, somewhat smaller than it was too, but if we allow this to continue, it will not grow. A house divided falls, as the old saying goes........
We do need a united face on the outside world, so that possible sponsors, etc, can obtain the best view of what is on offer.
Everyone is really obliged to support Gary, & also, well done to Dave.S., for his excellent feelings posted on BM., despite not being elected.
A really good sport.
Well done Gary, good luck, & let everyone support someone who is trying to build the sport thro his efforts.

[Martin The Talker]

My earlier mention of which clubs could/could not vote was posted only to enlighten the speculation as to who did/did not have "The Vote".