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21-11-2007, 06:15 PM
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i am sure now there has been posative talks between the main racing clubs/organisors there will be more incentives and cheaper racing ie-lower entry fees.We also want to bring the fun back into this sport
Brian ORDA Chairman.
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21-11-2007, 07:04 PM
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Boat make: Argo 18
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1750cc
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Originally Posted by verytricky
When you say 3b is now 1750cc and 115 hp what it the news? is this new rules from UIM??
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Yes ! It´s the new rules for 3B Epa +20kg
It went trough at the UIM GA !
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21-11-2007, 07:30 PM
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Location: West Coast of Norway
Occupation: naval architect
Interests: surface piercing props, stepped hulls, air entrapment hulls
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 24Maniac
Yes ! It´s the new rules for 3B Epa +20kg
It went trough at the UIM GA !
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Thanks for the info....
So is that 20kg + 635 kg (mono) 3B EPA (1600cc-90hp) in the 2007 UIM rules?
Will 3B, 3B EPA and 3B EPA + 20 race against each other or is the class being fragmented? I am confused....
I am still looking for a boat...would ideally like to build one but don’t know if I will have enough time this winter…
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21-11-2007, 07:34 PM
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Registered User
Location: West Coast of Norway
Occupation: naval architect
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stumpy
Just bought a 23 Bakdraft, may give it a go myself. The waiting time and cost of 200xs may delay my return to competitive racing!!!!
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I have never heard of a 23 Bakdraft? What does that look like?
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21-11-2007, 07:38 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Cowes, Isle of Wight
Occupation: Marine engineer/electrician
Interests: Boat, Landy, and other toys :)
Boat name: Mad Max/Master Fiddler
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as far as I know they were all 22,
and if that's the one i think it is then it's definately 22'
here's another...
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21-11-2007, 07:45 PM
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Location: West Coast of Norway
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxim Gibson
as far as I know they were all 22,
and if that's the one i think it is then it's definately 22'
here's another...
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Thanks!!
Looks very sharp..do you know who desgined/builds them?
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21-11-2007, 07:48 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Cowes, Isle of Wight
Occupation: Marine engineer/electrician
Interests: Boat, Landy, and other toys :)
Boat name: Mad Max/Master Fiddler
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i'm pretty sure it was an ocke design which was sold on,
i'm sure someone will correct me if i'm wrong,
the last i saw the moulds were sat in drivers, but that was probably over a year ago!
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21-11-2007, 08:18 PM
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Country: uk
Location: fast land
Occupation: going fast
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3b
if your now aloud up to 115 i could see that becoming quite popular,affordable,quiker and able to run a longer boat
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21-11-2007, 08:58 PM
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Registered User
Country: united Kingdom
Location: kent
Occupation: Broker
Interests: Powerboat Racing and F1
Boat name: Fugazi II
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxim Gibson
i'm pretty sure it was an ocke design which was sold on,
i'm sure someone will correct me if i'm wrong,
the last i saw the moulds were sat in drivers, but that was probably over a year ago!
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I belive it was Peter Little and Dave Arthur involved in the backdraft which had the 10 changes made to it so that it did not qualify as a splash but a variation on the design and this makes it legit.
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21-11-2007, 09:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Woody
I belive it was Peter Little and Dave Arthur involved in the backdraft which had the 10 changes made to it so that it did not qualify as a splash but a variation on the design and this makes it legit.
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The "10 changes" fairytale is bull, you steal something and get caught, you have to pay. Which is what the builders of the Backdraft did, pay a royalty on each boat produced to Ocke.
The moulds are sitting at Drivers looking very sorry for themselves, they belong to Mark Pascoe, as he took them in part payment for one of my 26's that we built for the original Backdraft builder. Mark used the bottom for his 7 metre Fiasco.
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21-11-2007, 09:35 PM
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Registered User
Location: West Coast of Norway
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Also look a bit like the old beecraft 19...?
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21-11-2007, 09:51 PM
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Is an ETEC 90 not a 1.3L then if so we've been told otherwise by BRP who import the Evinrudes to the uk, the 115 we were told was a 1.5L
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21-11-2007, 09:56 PM
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Registered User
Location: West Coast of Norway
Occupation: naval architect
Interests: surface piercing props, stepped hulls, air entrapment hulls
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JBP
Is an ETEC 90 not a 1.3L then if so we've been told otherwise by BRP who import the Evinrudes to the uk, the 115 we were told was a 1.5L
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the 75/90 is 1.3l
http://www.brp.com/en/Products/Evinr...oductID=ETEC90
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21-11-2007, 10:50 PM
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Country: UK
Location: Alderholt
Occupation: Aerospace
Boat name: T/T D2S
Boat make: Midas 27' Cat, Argo 16 Cat. Avon Rib Thingy
Engines: Merc 280-ROS -JSRE,65Xs, 75 Stinger, Yam 60
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Is there still a 2 year notice period on class / capacity rule changes (Excluding safety) or was that thrown out in the last few years. excluding the intro of new classes which this would fall under
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21-11-2007, 11:54 PM
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Country: England
Location: On the farm
Occupation: General Trouble Causer Salterns Boatyard
Interests: Official smartass
Boat name: Seahorse.org
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony Davis
The "10 changes" fairytale is bull, you steal something and get caught, you have to pay. Which is what the builders of the Backdraft did, pay a royalty on each boat produced to Ocke.
The moulds are sitting at Drivers looking very sorry for themselves, they belong to Mark Pascoe, as he took them in part payment for one of my 26's that we built for the original Backdraft builder. Mark used the bottom for his 7 metre Fiasco.
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So this is the story.
When I asked earlier matt said this was 'rumour' - well it appears to be fact.
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22-11-2007, 09:16 AM
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I remember having to put a ''Built under licence from Ocke Mannerfelt Design'' sticker on my bakdraft in cowes one year. Was asked very nicely by Pete to put it in a prominate position. Then Ocke turned up!!! Think it was 98
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22-11-2007, 09:42 AM
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i loved my one,matt liked it so much he tried kissing the dash at speed
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22-11-2007, 09:54 AM
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What do you mean tried? We had full on tongue sex.
The backdraft hull is quite asymetrical. Is the B22 similarly so?
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22-11-2007, 10:22 AM
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Country: England
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Boat name: Seahorse.org
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stumpy
Free Licenses!!!! I'm definately out next year. Brian, I'll send cheque for membership straight away.
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It is not ORDA that is promicing free membership, it is a promice of a free licence from the RYA and thus far only from class 3c competitors. This can be obtained no matter which affiliated club you belong to.
The RYA is still doing the calculations to determine if it is possible to offer free licences to everyone who is new in 2008, But I suspect this will only be for selected classes or categorys. We will have to wait and see what the actual offer from the RYA is. At the meeting last week Puddifoot did not state what the result would be, just that they are seriously considering it and would determine what they could offer in the next few weeks...
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22-11-2007, 10:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt
The backdraft hull is quite asymetrical. Is the B22 similarly so?
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Explain??
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