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30-04-2010, 03:20 PM
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PB1 2010 Rule Book
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01-05-2010, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by D~OOD
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Unless I am reading them incorrectly I can start taking some weight out of the boat. Also if I stop to assist in an incident I can sit in the centre of the course saving fuel and still pick up points!
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01-05-2010, 07:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by "Old beardy"
Unless I am reading them incorrectly I can start taking some weight out of the boat. Also if I stop to assist in an incident I can sit in the centre of the course saving fuel and still pick up points!
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Also V24 rules over taking rules are different to OCR and Class 3 which makes safe sence for over taking when racing at the same time on the same course!!!!!! JP Clearly has not been taking notes to what people are telling him!!!!!
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01-05-2010, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Pearny
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I put my thoughts about the 2010 rules in writing to JP prior to Allhallows....I would suggest that others should do the same.
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02-05-2010, 02:34 PM
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v24 rocks
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The overtaking rule is for canopy boats to pass on out side of all non canopy boats. V24 rocks
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02-05-2010, 03:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigdog v2
The overtaking rule is for canopy boats to pass on out side of all non canopy boats. V24 rocks
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Thats a start then as long as you understand it !!
However it clearly states "V24" overtaking rule and that has been clarified by JP as it does not apply to Canopied boats racing Non Canopied in the same class !!
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04-05-2010, 09:10 AM
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Does anyone know where to find PB2 (Circuit) on the RYA website? It says that it can be downloaded, directly above the link to PB1, but I can't find it anywhere. Jetsport is there.
Thanks
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06-05-2010, 04:08 PM
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I don't do mornings!!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OCRDA
Thats a start then as long as you understand it !!
However it clearly states "V24" overtaking rule and that has been clarified by JP as it does not apply to Canopied boats racing Non Canopied in the same class !!
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Where are you finding this "V-24" overtaking rule? I cannot find ANY V-24 rules in current issue, or have I missed something.
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06-05-2010, 04:33 PM
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It came out with the full officials version of PB1 but is essentially the UIM Circuit 312 Rule !! I can email you a copy if you send me an email address or you can google "UIM circuit rules" NOTE that is CIRCUIT not OFFSHORE !!
Bob
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06-05-2010, 04:37 PM
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Any one know why In the “front section” of PB1 it says that …
“Boat registration forms must be completed and returned to the RYA a minimum of 7 days prior to the intended first race unless by prior arrangement with the RYA.“
And in the “Marathon rules” section it says that ….
“Boat registration forms are available from the RYA and these must be completed and returned to the RYA a minimum of 28 days prior to the intended first race date unless by prior arrangement”
Why the difference in deadlines, and why is it that “A registration fee may be payable to the RYA”. ?????
I suppose it’s just another boat tax, but it would be handy to know how much it “may” cost?
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06-05-2010, 04:49 PM
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V24 Overtaking Rule 2010
V16 Rules of the Road
UM 312.01 All Racing Boats must take any action to avoid a collision at all times
16.2 Overlap
UIM 312.02 An overlap is only established when two boats are approximately on the same course and the cockpit of the overtaking boat, if passing on the inside, is even with the cockpit of the overtaken boat.
When overtaking from the outside, an overlap is established when the overtaking boat has passed the overtaken boat sufficiently to alter course without contact.
1MM 312.03 The leading boat has right of way until an overlap is established.
16.4 A safe overlap and overtaking manoeuvre is the responsibility of the
UIM 312.04 overtaking boat.
16.5 After an overlap manoeuvre, the overtaken boat must give the
UIM 312.05 overtaking boat room to negotiate turn buoys.
16.6 The overtaking boat cannot force an overlap situation once the lead
UIM 312.06 boat has started his turning manoeuvre.
16.7
UIM 312.07 An overlap can be attempted from either side of the leading boat.
UIM 312.08 Overtaking
An overtaking boat shall keep clear of the boat which is being
overtaken
uiM 31 2,11 Passing Marks
When trying to overtake a boat on the inside, the &ver must antifpate
the possible direction of the boat he is trying to overtake and must take
all necessary action to avoid a collision.
When passing a turn buoy and an overlap has been established, both boats must maintain a safe distance from each other and from the turn buoy.
Overlapping while overtaking does not give priority to the boat
overtaking on the inside.
U1M 312.12 Altering Course
When one of the boats is obliged to keep clear, the other shall not alter her course, to avoid risk of fouling.
A boat must not bear out of her course so as to hinder another in
passing to the right.
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06-05-2010, 05:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OCRDA
V24 Overtaking Rule 2010
V16 Rules of the Road
UM 312.01 All Racing Boats must take any action to avoid a collision at all times
16.2 Overlap
UIM 312.02 An overlap is only established when two boats are approximately on the same course and the cockpit of the overtaking boat, if passing on the inside, is even with the cockpit of the overtaken boat.
When overtaking from the outside, an overlap is established when the overtaking boat has passed the overtaken boat sufficiently to alter course without contact.
1MM 312.03 The leading boat has right of way until an overlap is established.
16.4 A safe overlap and overtaking manoeuvre is the responsibility of the
UIM 312.04 overtaking boat.
16.5 After an overlap manoeuvre, the overtaken boat must give the
UIM 312.05 overtaking boat room to negotiate turn buoys.
16.6 The overtaking boat cannot force an overlap situation once the lead
UIM 312.06 boat has started his turning manoeuvre.
16.7
UIM 312.07 An overlap can be attempted from either side of the leading boat.
UIM 312.08 Overtaking
An overtaking boat shall keep clear of the boat which is being
overtaken
uiM 31 2,11 Passing Marks
When trying to overtake a boat on the inside, the &ver must antifpate
the possible direction of the boat he is trying to overtake and must take
all necessary action to avoid a collision.
When passing a turn buoy and an overlap has been established, both boats must maintain a safe distance from each other and from the turn buoy.
Overlapping while overtaking does not give priority to the boat
overtaking on the inside.
U1M 312.12 Altering Course
When one of the boats is obliged to keep clear, the other shall not alter her course, to avoid risk of fouling.
A boat must not bear out of her course so as to hinder another in
passing to the right.
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Clear as mud
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06-05-2010, 05:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OCRDA
the &ver must antifpate
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Foolish
Clear as mud
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It's written in English, can't you read???
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