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22-06-2004, 08:21 AM
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Registered User
Country: Job Centre
Location: In a box
Occupation: Chaos's gofer
Interests: Skiving
Boat make: Spectre 30
Engines: 2 x Promax 225
Cruising area: In the bath
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Location: In a box
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Isn't Mel's boat petrol?
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22-06-2004, 09:02 AM
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Salcombe South Devon
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No he's got a new "Cardinal Sin" - it's a feck off big diesel like puddifoots!
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British Champions! RIB Formula 1 2005
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22-06-2004, 09:30 AM
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Senior Member
Country: UK
Location: Reading
Occupation: Being a mummy
Interests: Cruising
Boat name: Blue Ice
Boat make: Scorpion 7.5m RIB
Engines: Yamaha 200 hpdi
Cruising area: Solent
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Reading
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Well done, Cookee! Great news.
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22-06-2004, 10:54 AM
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Registered User
Location: hayling island
Boat name: snow monkey
Boat make: extreme 24
Engines: mercruiser 6.2
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a month of racing every weekend ,you must be knackered cookee
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22-06-2004, 11:24 AM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: South West
Occupation: Development engineer
Interests: Fast boats
Boat name: Xtreme
Boat make: Bernico 21
Engines: Mercury F1, 300 Drag, XR2 "Fingerported"
Cruising area: South West
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South West
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Exmouth
Cookee
Is exmouth this weekend coming!
What time does it start, is it both days.
Cyco
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23-06-2004, 08:41 AM
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's
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Quote:
Originally posted by carly baby
a month of racing every weekend ,you must be knackered cookee
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Thanks for your concern Carly! Actually wev'e had a break between Torquay and Ramsgate, and we're not going to the Littlehampton race as it's only a basic for the Ribs. It's actually more about time and logistics - I'm working up on the Isle of Man for a bit on a film so I don't think I could go unless I flew down for the day anyway!
The times for the Exmouth race are:
26/6/04
Start for F1 and F2 RIBs - 13.00
Start for the basic fleet - 13.10
Boat parade complete with monster water pistols 18.00
Huge great big party 20.00
27/06/04
Poker Run
Hope that helps anyone that is thinking of going - Oh yeah if you're thinking of watching the race - it's going from Exmouth to the Eddystone lighthouse off Plymouth and back - 104 miles!
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24-06-2004, 08:32 AM
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Registered User
Location: West Sussex
Occupation: fixin when its broke
Interests: Using it til it falls apart
Boat name: Black Widow
Boat make: Donzi 30' sportsboat
Engines: 2* 454
Cruising area: Solent + south coast
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Trashed after 18 hours
I saw Teryy Mills (V3) engine in the Marina workshop. After only 18 hours its beyond recovery. Broken rods laid in the pan beside a collection of shreddedshells . Looking up under the block from underneath you could see a rod had stopped the rotation for the last time and bought the thing to a standstill by getting jammed between the crank and a main cap. The timing chain cover has been ripped open as the crank needed to move forward a wee bit to let that rod in. Paul (Terrys son) said that as the boat got caught up in a corner on sunday . The lower exhaust tip went under and the engine back filled with sea water.
Some good pics...
http://www.keith-slater.co.uk/slideshows.htm
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24-06-2004, 07:50 PM
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Registered User
Country: Job Centre
Location: In a box
Occupation: Chaos's gofer
Interests: Skiving
Boat make: Spectre 30
Engines: 2 x Promax 225
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Re: Trashed after 18 hours
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Originally posted by Petrol Head
the boat got caught up in a corner on sunday . The lower exhaust tip went under and the engine back filled with sea water.
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Sounds like someone's imagination is getting the better of them, unless they were reversing round the corner when it happened!
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24-06-2004, 08:10 PM
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Registered User
Location: West Sussex
Occupation: fixin when its broke
Interests: Using it til it falls apart
Boat name: Black Widow
Boat make: Donzi 30' sportsboat
Engines: 2* 454
Cruising area: Solent + south coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: West Sussex
Posts: 189
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Well I'm impressed Sir!
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25-06-2004, 10:22 AM
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Salcombe South Devon
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Kitten and I were wondering how you could get enough water up past the exhaust gases to break a conrod as well!
Even if he spun it and stalled it - got water up the exhaust (and they are quite high) it just wouldn't start again.
My money is on an engine fault or too much right foot!
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25-06-2004, 02:17 PM
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Registered User
Country: ENGLAND
Location: south coast
Occupation: BOAT BUILDER
Interests: WORK/INFATABLES
Boat name: MINCER
Boat make: RIB 9M
Engines: BENT ONES
Cruising area: ANY PUBLIC TOILETS
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: south coast
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Oil maybe (lack of it)
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25-06-2004, 04:58 PM
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Registered User
Location: The Pit
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Re: F2 Results
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Originally posted by Cookee
We were very pleased to be first petrol boat home and are looking forward to the 104 mile race at Exmouth next weekend!
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Well done Cooks and team. (sorry didn't see this till now)
Great result...great pics too...
Missus
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25-06-2004, 06:53 PM
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Registered User
Country: Job Centre
Location: In a box
Occupation: Chaos's gofer
Interests: Skiving
Boat make: Spectre 30
Engines: 2 x Promax 225
Cruising area: In the bath
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Location: In a box
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Quote:
Originally posted by DIESEL DIGGLER
Oil maybe (lack of it)
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Sounds more likely!!!
Damaged oil pipe or just forgot to screw the filter on properly?
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26-06-2004, 11:55 AM
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Registered User
Location: West Sussex
Occupation: fixin when its broke
Interests: Using it til it falls apart
Boat name: Black Widow
Boat make: Donzi 30' sportsboat
Engines: 2* 454
Cruising area: Solent + south coast
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Location: West Sussex
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Or perhaps the dipstick jumped out.. Right!.
Nothing quite like being open minded is there!
There was no overheating of the components, the melt down you get with a total sudden oil failure. There were just clean cold snaps from components being massiviely overloaded.The shells from the broken rods, just mashed and the soft metal linings not burnt out.
So what was it then?
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26-06-2004, 12:27 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
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Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
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How did it get from 'Hydraulicing', to a heap of broken components without generating any heat? to mash the shells, move the crank and all the other damage explained, it must have run for at least a short time after the 'alleged' incident, the forces involved in that would surely have caused some heat.
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26-06-2004, 01:11 PM
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Registered User
Location: West Sussex
Occupation: fixin when its broke
Interests: Using it til it falls apart
Boat name: Black Widow
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Cruising area: Solent + south coast
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Theres no sign of abnormal heat.
IMHO, to coin a phrase; this happened very swiftly with forces that overtook the strength of the parts with ease.
You can see, some smashed parts got in the way of the others to stop the rotation. There s a rod wedged between the crank journal throwypoo and the block. The engine was forced to stop, not ground to a halt by friction overcoming the power output.
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26-06-2004, 05:12 PM
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numbskull
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The word on the street is, the oil filter head broke away from the normal mounting place on the battery box, and the flexible hoses between it and the block adaptor got itself worn through on a moving part.
The oil filter-head assy has broken loose on a few V24's
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26-06-2004, 07:41 PM
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Registered User
Location: West Sussex
Occupation: fixin when its broke
Interests: Using it til it falls apart
Boat name: Black Widow
Boat make: Donzi 30' sportsboat
Engines: 2* 454
Cruising area: Solent + south coast
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Location: West Sussex
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Choice!
Everyone, who saw the oil in the bert on sunday came to the same conclusions. That saturday had caused sunday.
But, you cant see the oles in the block, in the sump, in the chain case until you pull it out. You cant see the stretched crank until you pull it out.
The saturday,oil filter gets pin-oled near the end of the race the the filter mount snaps off. A LITTLE oil makes a BIG mess in the new bert.
Sunday,the starboard wing rises into the air. You insticively wind the motor down and, with both hands, find yerself reaching for the mask and the door pins. In comes the water, up the pipey poo.
Shortly after the forced submergance, the once harmonious reciprocating parts, try to get out ,everwhere they can.
Out of the Block, out through the sump-oles, the chaincase.
SUMP-OLES?? Yes cheese grater holes.
All of the oil is going to be in ther bert .
Not a bearing anywhere got hot as of saturday or sundays oil loss.
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26-06-2004, 09:56 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
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Boat make: Phantom 28
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Was the engine running throughout this misshap? ie, did it at any point cut out.
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27-06-2004, 08:36 AM
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Registered User
Location: West Sussex
Occupation: fixin when its broke
Interests: Using it til it falls apart
Boat name: Black Widow
Boat make: Donzi 30' sportsboat
Engines: 2* 454
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I'm not sure.
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