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25-06-2008, 04:18 PM
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#1741
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Registered User
Location: redhill
Occupation: data manager
Boat name: salamis
Boat make: cheetah (not that cat thing), Invicta Jupiter 5.0
Engines: I/B VP
Cruising area: littlehampton
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: redhill
Posts: 283
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I thought Garmins' engines were OK but the turbo's keep overheating?
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25-06-2008, 04:19 PM
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#1742
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Registered User
Location: West Coast of Norway
Occupation: naval architect
Interests: surface piercing props, stepped hulls, air entrapment hulls
Boat name: none
Boat make: PetterTintorera
Engines: Yamaha 90
Cruising area: West Coast of Norway
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: West Coast of Norway
Posts: 888
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I think they used to be made by GM, but has now been replaced by the 6.6l V8. I someone bought the tooling and continued the production. I think these are the same blocks that JF has in the Phantom 28?
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25-06-2008, 04:20 PM
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#1743
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: At home
Occupation: IT stuff
Interests: danger boat
Boat name: Blue Ice
Boat make: Scorpion RIB 7.5m
Engines: Just the one :-(
Cruising area: In the sea
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: At home
Posts: 469
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scand
I think these are the same blocks that JF has in the Phantom 28?
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I'm guessing that too.
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25-06-2008, 04:21 PM
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#1744
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: At home
Occupation: IT stuff
Interests: danger boat
Boat name: Blue Ice
Boat make: Scorpion RIB 7.5m
Engines: Just the one :-(
Cruising area: In the sea
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: At home
Posts: 469
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Permissiontocomeaboard
I've clicked till my fingers almost dropped off, I was still clicking last night. Thanks for the advice though it's appreciated.
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If you click on the icon for the boat, you should get this.....
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25-06-2008, 04:33 PM
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#1745
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice Kiddie
If you click on the icon for the boat, you should get this.....
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That's exactly what I do get Ice, but last night I kept clicking and it wasn't staying.
Why is it showing that, when they are in, Inverness, are they not turned on?
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25-06-2008, 04:38 PM
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#1746
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: At home
Occupation: IT stuff
Interests: danger boat
Boat name: Blue Ice
Boat make: Scorpion RIB 7.5m
Engines: Just the one :-(
Cruising area: In the sea
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: At home
Posts: 469
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Permissiontocomeaboard
Why is it showing that, when they are in, Inverness, are they not turned on?
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I guess so... I think it'll show the last recorded position until updated.
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25-06-2008, 04:40 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice Kiddie
I guess so... I think it'll show the last recorded position until updated.
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Thanks Ice. I'll wait then till they turn on.
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25-06-2008, 06:31 PM
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#1748
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 4
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I think the Round Britain crew members are enjoying a relatively easy life compared to us mere mortals who wish to follow their progress... whilst they calmly navigate from point A-to-B taking in the pleasant views of Britan's glorious coastline, little do they realise the hard gruelling efforts us keyboard navigators are going through loading up MarineTrack, pressing F5 and hoping for a refresh, zooming-in only to find MultiMap has no data for a particular area, and then zooming back out only to find the system has timed out! I hope the pilots take some time out from sampling Scotch whisky during their day off in Inverness to think about what a monumental effort us fans are putting in!!!
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25-06-2008, 06:43 PM
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#1749
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: Bucks
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Bucks
Posts: 586
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wett Punks
I think the Round Britain crew members are enjoying a relatively easy life compared to us mere mortals who wish to follow their progress... whilst they calmly navigate from point A-to-B taking in the pleasant views of Britan's glorious coastline, little do they realise the hard gruelling efforts us keyboard navigators are going through loading up MarineTrack, pressing F5 and hoping for a refresh, zooming-in only to find MultiMap has no data for a particular area, and then zooming back out only to find the system has timed out! I hope the pilots take some time out from sampling Scotch whisky during their day off in Inverness to think about what a monumental effort us fans are putting in!!!
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His res pics - book mark the page - more to follow - our wi fi doesnt allow attachments on email!
http://www.roundbritainrace.co.uk/4.htm
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25-06-2008, 07:34 PM
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#1750
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Registered User
Country: UK
Boat name: Johnny-Rude
Boat make: a few
Engines: Seagull with hi five prop
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 284
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wett Punks
I think the Round Britain crew members are enjoying a relatively easy life compared to us mere mortals who wish to follow their progress... whilst they calmly navigate from point A-to-B taking in the pleasant views of Britan's glorious coastline, little do they realise the hard gruelling efforts us keyboard navigators are going through loading up MarineTrack, pressing F5 and hoping for a refresh, zooming-in only to find MultiMap has no data for a particular area, and then zooming back out only to find the system has timed out! I hope the pilots take some time out from sampling Scotch whisky during their day off in Inverness to think about what a monumental effort us fans are putting in!!!
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take a look at http://www.shipais.com/ could this system not be used in future. The time riverdance beached off blackpool you could follow its movements before hand in real time 24/7
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25-06-2008, 07:34 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: At Home
Occupation: Boat Stuff
Interests: Boating, Shooting,Fishing
Boat name: Oklahoma / Project Racing Team
Boat make: Aqua Star 33 - a tug!
Engines: Perkins Sabre 300
Cruising area: Round Britain
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: At Home
Posts: 126
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Update from TEAM GOLDFISH
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25-06-2008, 07:42 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: Bucks
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Bucks
Posts: 586
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Chris has taken some great shots again - he may be my room mate - but are these good or what?
http://www.roundbritainrace.co.uk/june25.htm
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25-06-2008, 07:49 PM
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#1753
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Registered User
Country: UK
Occupation: dog breeder
Interests: boats, cars,film.f1 and anitques/paintings
Boat name: tba
Cruising area: south coast France and med
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,062
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Great pics C D............................Christ those guys look 1/2 frozen to death,I saw it was gonna be wet but how cold was/is it up home??
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25-06-2008, 08:44 PM
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#1754
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Registered User
Location: redhill
Occupation: data manager
Boat name: salamis
Boat make: cheetah (not that cat thing), Invicta Jupiter 5.0
Engines: I/B VP
Cruising area: littlehampton
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: redhill
Posts: 283
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I didn't realise the start boat was in the running? I thought once Portsmouth was done and dusted its job was over.
Great pics. Good to see the Targa is still in the mix, and the blue XS is holding up, I wonder how Shelly is doing. None of the boats look like they are halfway through a 1600 mile race, just exactly as they looked Friday night at Gunwarf.
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25-06-2008, 08:44 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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The Garmin boat has the GM/Isuzu 6.6 litre Duramax motors, not the 6.5 litre GM / AM General blocks that mine are based on.
The motors are extremely strong. The problem appears to be the variable boost turbos, which I think are the automotive jobs, rather than a marine replacement.
We've been given a 30 minute penalty for the Saturday race for going inside the exclusion zone at start point, (based on marine track data) so now have 63 mins to catch up the Goldfish rib which is running in first place in class. A bit of a bummer.
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25-06-2008, 08:51 PM
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#1756
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 6,891
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And what does your GPS track show?
Everyone on here has been having a nightmare getting any sensible data off the marine track site - boats being shown significantly exceeding the WOT speed for example.
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25-06-2008, 08:54 PM
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#1757
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Registered User
Country: uk
Location: poole
Occupation: retail
Interests: sport and being lazy
Boat make: ring rib
Engines: merc xr2
Cruising area: bournemouth bay
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: poole
Posts: 1,681
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Thanks for clearing up the confusion on the Garmin engines...Is it true that the time penalty's are open to a challenge from teams and after a hearing it may be decided to remove the penalty...lets hope so anyway good luck with the next 4 stages
And yes those Goldfish ribs seem very quick will defiantly look forward to their P1 challenge after their RB assault
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25-06-2008, 09:10 PM
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#1758
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Registered User
Location: redhill
Occupation: data manager
Boat name: salamis
Boat make: cheetah (not that cat thing), Invicta Jupiter 5.0
Engines: I/B VP
Cruising area: littlehampton
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: redhill
Posts: 283
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That's what I understood the Garmin boats turbos are not water cooled and overheating, not much forced air through a boats engine bay !!!
Teams are being handed out time penalties right left and centre and why? Because Marinetrack have put them in an exclusion zone. How can that be considered a definitive yard stick when it shows boats all over the place and never where they actually are.
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25-06-2008, 10:13 PM
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#1759
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Chief C*nt!
Country: United Kingdom
Location: Brighton
Occupation: Sparkler prefect
Interests: Boats
Boat make: Other people's mostly
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Brighton
Posts: 872
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ciao! as our man on the spot please can you confirm who has had penalties, what for, and when?
I'd like to update my leaderboard!
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25-06-2008, 10:14 PM
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#1760
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: At home
Occupation: IT stuff
Interests: danger boat
Boat name: Blue Ice
Boat make: Scorpion RIB 7.5m
Engines: Just the one :-(
Cruising area: In the sea
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: At home
Posts: 469
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Fuller
We've been given a 30 minute penalty for the Saturday race for going inside the exclusion zone at start point, (based on marine track data)
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I'd be interested to know how the "exclusion zone" is defined. If it's one mile, then you could have an interesting point to argue for a number of reasons...
1) Nautical or statute mile? Is the "exclusion zone" definition absolutely concise about this?
2) You appear to be right on 1 mile off the point... but I guess MarineTrack's Multimap based system uses statute miles?
3) Your track looks dead straight to me... so some degree of interpolation must have been used (or Nick's got a very steady hand on the wheel!)
4) Can the actual plotted points be produced as evidence? The calculated track between these mean absolutely nothing and can easily be argued as inadmissible evidence IMHO. If an actual recorded plot puts you in the "exclusion zone" then sorry mate it's tough poo. If not, I'd fight like a rottweiler!
Best of luck.
(PS. The spell checker doesn't like Rottweiler and wants to use "Throttler"!!)
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