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04-12-2007, 08:11 PM
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wiggy808
Country: Southampton
Location: Southampton
Occupation: Marine Engineer
Interests: wakeboarding, power boats, 900hp Audi
Boat name: Marshan19
Boat make: Marshan 19, Mirage 22
Engines: Mariner 200, 2.2 5cyl Audi
Cruising area: Solent
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Southampton
Posts: 133
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Racing Info?
Hi to all, Just wondered if anyone could give me any advice on getting started in racing, basic races etc.
I live on the Isle of Wight and run a good old marshan 19. Any info about local events, licenses and clubs etc would be very well recieved.
Thanks
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04-12-2007, 08:24 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Cowes, Isle of Wight
Occupation: Marine engineer/electrician
Interests: Boat, Landy, and other toys :)
Boat name: Mad Max/Master Fiddler
Boat make: Phantom 18/Fletcher Bravo
Engines: Merc XR2
Cruising area: Solent/IOW
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Cowes, Isle of Wight
Posts: 935
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Hey,
how are you?
I'm in cowes!
previously you would have had to wait till August and attempted to go RTI as your first race (not the best starting course!), or paid ridiculous amounts to tow the boat across the ferry,
but there are supposed to be a couple of basic races being run in the solent in 2008, no dates that i'm aware of yet but they'll be accessible from the island.
You'll find everything you need to know regarding the rigging of the boat, safety equip etc on this site.
I'll let you know when my machine's back on the water and we'll have to meet in the solent!
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Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, grinning from ear to ear, overdosing on adrenaline and proclaiming “KINNEL!! WHAT A RIDE!!”
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04-12-2007, 08:30 PM
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wiggy808
Country: Southampton
Location: Southampton
Occupation: Marine Engineer
Interests: wakeboarding, power boats, 900hp Audi
Boat name: Marshan19
Boat make: Marshan 19, Mirage 22
Engines: Mariner 200, 2.2 5cyl Audi
Cruising area: Solent
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Southampton
Posts: 133
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Definately, I'm actually coming down to your place soon as I've just ordered some gaskets. I'll make my case known.
Thanks for the quick reply.
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04-12-2007, 08:32 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Cowes, Isle of Wight
Occupation: Marine engineer/electrician
Interests: Boat, Landy, and other toys :)
Boat name: Mad Max/Master Fiddler
Boat make: Phantom 18/Fletcher Bravo
Engines: Merc XR2
Cruising area: Solent/IOW
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Cowes, Isle of Wight
Posts: 935
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No worries
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Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, grinning from ear to ear, overdosing on adrenaline and proclaiming “KINNEL!! WHAT A RIDE!!”
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04-12-2007, 08:44 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Birmingham
Occupation: Scratching
Interests: Big Dinners
Boat name: Never Enough
Boat make: Seaquel 600xs
Engines: 225hp Merc ProMax
Cruising area: Anywhere! I prefer Weymouth
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 3,232
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Post some pics of yarn boat Wiggy
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04-12-2007, 09:29 PM
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wiggy808
Country: Southampton
Location: Southampton
Occupation: Marine Engineer
Interests: wakeboarding, power boats, 900hp Audi
Boat name: Marshan19
Boat make: Marshan 19, Mirage 22
Engines: Mariner 200, 2.2 5cyl Audi
Cruising area: Solent
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Southampton
Posts: 133
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My pleasure, sorry there aren't any action shots. There's not been much action yet. Still in the process of getting it set up nice.
Any information about its past would be great. I got the boat when I was running a fibreglass shop up north as a project around 5-6 years ago. In its original guise it had " Bridlington Breakdown recovery" on the wind shield and was red and white. It also had a name down the sides in HUGE letters. I can't actually remember what it was though. It came with a rotten XR2 on the back, And I mean rotten, crank gone, bores gone, gears gone, no spark, the list goes on. Anyway to cut a long story, I got my arse into gear 4 weeks ago and she's somewhere near finished.
Old but gold, ok, maybe bronze!
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04-12-2007, 09:30 PM
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wiggy808
Country: Southampton
Location: Southampton
Occupation: Marine Engineer
Interests: wakeboarding, power boats, 900hp Audi
Boat name: Marshan19
Boat make: Marshan 19, Mirage 22
Engines: Mariner 200, 2.2 5cyl Audi
Cruising area: Solent
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Southampton
Posts: 133
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OOOPS, sorry about the yellow one!!
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04-12-2007, 09:45 PM
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Registered User
Country: Scotland
Location: Kirkcudbright
Interests: Boats n Lambrettas
Boat make: Boatless
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Kirkcudbright
Posts: 978
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wiggy808
OOOPS, sorry about the yellow one!!
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What is it ?
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04-12-2007, 09:55 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 5,724
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mike k
What is it ?
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one that was on ebay a while ago, vector marine? 22'
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04-12-2007, 09:55 PM
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wiggy808
Country: Southampton
Location: Southampton
Occupation: Marine Engineer
Interests: wakeboarding, power boats, 900hp Audi
Boat name: Marshan19
Boat make: Marshan 19, Mirage 22
Engines: Mariner 200, 2.2 5cyl Audi
Cruising area: Solent
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Southampton
Posts: 133
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I think it's a variant of a marlin mirage! Bought it on Ebay off "driver 510" who's on here. Just bought a twin turbo subaru for it, should be a bit of fun!!!!
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05-12-2007, 07:11 PM
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Registered User
Country: United kingdom
Location: West Sussex
Occupation: Grease Monkey
Interests: Makin my boat faster!
Boat name: S.B Racing
Boat make: Ocke mannerfelt canopied B23 / Zapcat
Engines: Merc 200XS Gen 2 / Tohatsu 50
Cruising area: littlehampton/Southampton
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: West Sussex
Posts: 2,656
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Quick boats marshan 19's! Twitchy and a handful but quick. Still nice looking to.
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05-12-2007, 07:23 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Cornwall
Occupation: Civil Engineer in the water industry
Interests: Powerboat racing, travel, curries, zimmers
Boat name: "N" Class fabrication
Boat make: B23
Engines: 200XS
Cruising area: Torbay & Falmouth
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 478
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scottyboy
Quick boats marshan 19's! Twitchy and a handful but quick. Still nice looking to.
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Great in the rough too!! Biggest problem is getting them round a corner fast. I loved the 19 that I had, very predictable. Make sure you empty the bow tank in a following sea as they have a tendency to stuff!
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05-12-2007, 07:26 PM
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Registered User
Country: United kingdom
Location: West Sussex
Occupation: Grease Monkey
Interests: Makin my boat faster!
Boat name: S.B Racing
Boat make: Ocke mannerfelt canopied B23 / Zapcat
Engines: Merc 200XS Gen 2 / Tohatsu 50
Cruising area: littlehampton/Southampton
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: West Sussex
Posts: 2,656
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Quote:
Originally Posted by "Old beardy"
Make sure you empty the bow tank in a following sea as they have a tendency to stuff!
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Hmmm I found that out the hard way! Got a scar on me head to prove it!
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05-12-2007, 11:39 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: North Hampshire
Occupation: Sales
Interests: Powerboat Racing
Boat name: Team Purple, Team Shark
Boat make: Sperstock 150, 300 race boats, Class 3s cat
Engines: Honda 150, 2.5 efi ROS*2
Cruising area: Solent
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: North Hampshire
Posts: 125
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxim Gibson
Hey,
but there are supposed to be a couple of basic races being run in the solent in 2008, no dates that i'm aware of yet but they'll be accessible from the island.
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I presume the Brass Monkey at the RMYC Poole is Jan? or early feb - thats a basic race you could enter and good fun. I presume it is running as with tradition and will be on the same day as the RYA powerboat awards dinner in Bournemouth - should be on the RYA website
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06-12-2007, 12:01 AM
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wiggy808
Country: Southampton
Location: Southampton
Occupation: Marine Engineer
Interests: wakeboarding, power boats, 900hp Audi
Boat name: Marshan19
Boat make: Marshan 19, Mirage 22
Engines: Mariner 200, 2.2 5cyl Audi
Cruising area: Solent
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Southampton
Posts: 133
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Cheers guys, I've actually noticed that she does run with her bow well down even with the bow tank empty.
I'll have a look on the RYA site, Are you guys gonna be taking part in the brass monkey?
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06-12-2007, 07:24 AM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Cornwall
Occupation: Civil Engineer in the water industry
Interests: Powerboat racing, travel, curries, zimmers
Boat name: "N" Class fabrication
Boat make: B23
Engines: 200XS
Cruising area: Torbay & Falmouth
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 478
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wiggy808
Cheers guys, I've actually noticed that she does run with her bow well down even with the bow tank empty.
I'll have a look on the RYA site, Are you guys gonna be taking part in the brass monkey?
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It should not be running bow down. Where have you got your fuel tank? Is the bow tank surrounded in foam?
We will probably have a potter around at the Brass Monkey to blow away the cobwebs.
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06-12-2007, 07:54 AM
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Registered User
Country: United kingdom
Location: West Sussex
Occupation: Grease Monkey
Interests: Makin my boat faster!
Boat name: S.B Racing
Boat make: Ocke mannerfelt canopied B23 / Zapcat
Engines: Merc 200XS Gen 2 / Tohatsu 50
Cruising area: littlehampton/Southampton
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: West Sussex
Posts: 2,656
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Quote:
Originally Posted by "Old beardy"
It should not be running bow down. Where have you got your fuel tank? Is the bow tank surrounded in foam?
We will probably have a potter around at the Brass Monkey to blow away the cobwebs.
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Hopefully see ya there!
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06-12-2007, 10:02 AM
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wiggy808
Country: Southampton
Location: Southampton
Occupation: Marine Engineer
Interests: wakeboarding, power boats, 900hp Audi
Boat name: Marshan19
Boat make: Marshan 19, Mirage 22
Engines: Mariner 200, 2.2 5cyl Audi
Cruising area: Solent
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Southampton
Posts: 133
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The tanks are in the back, i'm still trying different props and engine heights at the moment, when it's all set up it may be different. What setup would you guys think I needed, cleaver, chopper, cavitation plate height??
I'm in the process of fitting one of bobs big foot nose kit as last time out she got a little warm!!!
Any help will be well recieved.
Thanks
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06-12-2007, 12:35 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Cornwall
Occupation: Civil Engineer in the water industry
Interests: Powerboat racing, travel, curries, zimmers
Boat name: "N" Class fabrication
Boat make: B23
Engines: 200XS
Cruising area: Torbay & Falmouth
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 478
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wiggy808
The tanks are in the back, i'm still trying different props and engine heights at the moment, when it's all set up it may be different. What setup would you guys think I needed, cleaver, chopper, cavitation plate height??
I'm in the process of fitting one of bobs big foot nose kit as last time out she got a little warm!!!
Any help will be well recieved.
Thanks
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The transom on the 19 was high, for skiing we cut it down by 2" as it would not pull a skier out. That would also overcome your cooling problems.
When you say "tanks are in the back" are these the standard fuel tanks you get with the outboard? If so you will need to get a larger fixed tank made up for racing.
We used to run either a 23" lazer 2 prop or a small hub chopper 22" or 24" on ours. You certainly do not want a cleaver.
Check around your ballast tank in the bow, Marshan used to foam fill around the tank to provide buoyancy. The problem was that when it got wet it acted like a sponge and retained the water, hence giving you more weight in the bow, keeping the nose down. If it is foam filled then I would rip it out and put some airbags up there.
Hope this helps.
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06-12-2007, 01:48 PM
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wiggy808
Country: Southampton
Location: Southampton
Occupation: Marine Engineer
Interests: wakeboarding, power boats, 900hp Audi
Boat name: Marshan19
Boat make: Marshan 19, Mirage 22
Engines: Mariner 200, 2.2 5cyl Audi
Cruising area: Solent
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Southampton
Posts: 133
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The tanks are two 40litre portable ones. How long is a normal race? You say definately not a cleaver, why is this? The high transom explains the cavitation i've been experiencing at lower speeds and when setting off, once up on the plane it feels quite quick. The good old boat speedo read 65, as per usual this was taken with a very big pinch of salt!! GPS is ordered!
Getting a bigger tank is not a prob. What sort of size would you recommend?
The bow tank isn't actually in at the moment and there is nothing in the bow.
Sorry for all the questions, and thanks for all the help.
Cheers.
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