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Old 27-03-2008, 08:42 PM   #21
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Yep
My Ring 20 has it as well just checked

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Old 27-03-2008, 08:49 PM   #22
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ok, what and where excatly am i looking
under my dash ive got
steering helm, guages, intercom, thas all i can see
how big is this slip
looks like i to shouldnt be calling my boat a ring
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Old 27-03-2008, 08:50 PM   #23
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ive looked AGAIN
and cant find anything
gettin a lil worried now
Freedom,
This may help....

Prior to 1985 none of the boats from the late sixties onward were numbered on the boat , we knew every owner by name and could usually track the progress of each boat as it changed hands and went on to race with a new owner.
From 1985 it was obvious that numbering individual boats helped me identify which model a person was referring to. I had introduced the R15 ( possibly the type this thread is all about ), series C 16 s ( the Bs being stepped ) , and up to series B 18s .
Stepped and conventional vee 20 footers ,some with special ventilated hull bottoms to series B. By this time the 21 range was on its second re-incarnation. The numbers were glassed to the underside of the screen from this date , this was common knowledge but a 'secret ' second number was glassed to the reverse of the rear seat backrest . not easy to spot.
By the eighties people were 'passing off' 20 footers for 21s by re decalling . ( there is a case of that happening at the moment with a red 20 series B being offered as a R21.
The 15 measured approx 15 feet nine inches , the sixteen was tailored to a particular racing class, the stepped 16 b being the shortest and the quickest, and used to very good effect in class 4 , lifting the record at Windermere.
18s were all around 18 feet nine inches , 20s nearly all 20 feet ten inches but EVERY genuine 21 measured exactly 6.5 Metres (21feet four and a half inches ) the max allowed for F1 ski racing to get the most amount of boat in the water to help the skier.

I can usually identify a boat prior to 1985 from the way that it was built and stiffened. mail me a pic or two and I will try to help.

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Old 27-03-2008, 09:00 PM   #24
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Ditto. Mike Ring was very helpful and informative when I asked him a few questions before I bought my 20. ( top bloke)
think this previous statement rings very true(sorry if i seemed bulshy in my fiorst statement)
i will email you a few pics that ive got
any where in particular that would be a dead give away
i was sold it as a late 80's model but no slip would indicate differently
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Old 27-03-2008, 10:30 PM   #25
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think this previous statement rings very true(sorry if i seemed bulshy in my fiorst statement)
i will email you a few pics that ive got
any where in particular that would be a dead give away
i was sold it as a late 80's model but no slip would indicate differently
Under the fordeck / aft deck
tank area and forward of footboard plus a pic or two of the deck plan view and side elevation.
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Old 27-03-2008, 10:36 PM   #26
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well in the process of fitting a bow tank at the moment
bit to much bow lift with a 225
so i crawl back under tomorrow with the camera
ive got a couple of her in the water taken from a habour wall, would that do for you deck shots
http://www.bebo.com/PhotoAlbum.jsp?M...mId=5141179203
no under deck shots
but the biggest collection of web acessable pics i have of her
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Old 27-03-2008, 10:45 PM   #27
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looks like that polishing mop brought up the shine Chris.

http://www.bebo.com/PhotoAlbumBig.js...oId=7186555268

On the other photos is that the boat that towed you in the other week.

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Old 27-03-2008, 11:12 PM   #28
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nope :D

that was the day after
we were under all of our own steam then
new battery and all
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Old 28-03-2008, 10:00 AM   #29
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Under the fordeck / aft deck
tank area and forward of footboard plus a pic or two of the deck plan view and side elevation.
Mike
Mike,

Have the same problem as Freedom - cannot find any ID slip and would be interested to know my boats history, had Slippo make a few enquiries but no joy.

If you have time I would certainly appreciate any help info you have.

The boat is a Ring 18 and it appears to have been rigged by "Ron Scott Marine" since there were is stickers on both the hull and engine. It has at some point been called "Trivial Pursuit" but when in its history is was called this I dont know. I have had the boat for 3 years now and bought it from a bloke down in Windermere who was selling it due to the speed restrictions.

Have spent a good deal of time under the dash when I re-wired it all but never found any slip.

As i say, would appreciate any info you can give me.

Cheers
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Old 28-03-2008, 10:08 AM   #30
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Mike,

Have the same problem as Freedom - cannot find any ID slip and would be interested to know my boats history, had Slippo make a few enquiries but no joy.

If you have time I would certainly appreciate any help info you have.

The boat is a Ring 18 and it appears to have been rigged by "Ron Scott Marine" since there were is stickers on both the hull and engine. It has at some point been called "Trivial Pursuit" but when in its history is was called this I dont know. I have had the boat for 3 years now and bought it from a bloke down in Windermere who was selling it due to the speed restrictions.

Have spent a good deal of time under the dash when I re-wired it all but never found any slip.

As i say, would appreciate any info you can give me.

Cheers
Dave
Hi Dave ,

R 18 series B pre HIN 1982-early 1985 .
Hope this helps.

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Old 28-03-2008, 10:17 AM   #31
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Cheers Mike,

Very much appreciated.

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Old 28-03-2008, 10:19 AM   #32
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well in the process of fitting a bow tank at the moment
bit to much bow lift with a 225
so i crawl back under tomorrow with the camera
ive got a couple of her in the water taken from a habour wall, would that do for you deck shots
http://www.bebo.com/PhotoAlbum.jsp?M...mId=5141179203
no under deck shots
but the biggest collection of web acessable pics i have of her
Hi Fred,
Yours is the same as Daves, from the pics you posted, but I would be interested to see the underdeck stiffening to see if this is the same.

Fortunatley in the early eighties very little copyright theft occoured, it seemed to start in the latter part of the decade.


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Old 28-03-2008, 11:23 AM   #33
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should probobly be why i should sign my name
will endevour to get some underdeck shots
and i guess a splash was unlikely to have taken place in the earlly 80's
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Old 28-03-2008, 08:54 PM   #34
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should probobly be why i should sign my name
will endevour to get some underdeck shots
and i guess a splash was unlikely to have taken place in the earlly 80's
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I couldnt find any marks either but then whilst under the bow fidling with fuel tank looked up and can see a number that is visible through the fibre glass sort of near the back of where the clocks are but on the flat bit of the bow
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Old 28-03-2008, 09:21 PM   #35
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I couldnt find any marks either but then whilst under the bow fidling with fuel tank looked up and can see a number that is visible through the fibre glass sort of near the back of where the clocks are but on the flat bit of the bow
Checkit !

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Old 28-03-2008, 10:15 PM   #36
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Old 28-03-2008, 10:23 PM   #37
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ill take the blame for this one me thinks
sorrry
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Checkit !

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Took some quick pics today of this number a a couple more for luck couldnt be bothered to fully uncover
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Old 30-03-2008, 06:59 PM   #39
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Took some quick pics today of this number a a couple more for luck couldnt be bothered to fully uncover
Hi Matt,

18 series C, built ( moulded) on 13 th March 1987 at Ford Lane , Ford Arundel, west sussex.

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Old 30-03-2008, 07:02 PM   #40
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See what you've started now Mike!
Its a case of...... 'Noblesse Oblige' , Old Chap.

Someone has to keep the Unknowing from the Unscrupulous !!

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