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03-10-2012, 07:10 PM
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Country: england
Location: surrey
Engines: none at the mo
Cruising area: south coast
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p20 on ebay
clean looking p20 on ebay, 9k tho
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03-10-2012, 08:55 PM
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Country: england
Location: the grim north
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Cruising area: tyne
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73mph witha 150 must be super light
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03-10-2012, 11:32 PM
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Country: guernsey
Occupation: mechanic
Boat name: top gun dewpacabra
Boat make: phantom 600 phantom 19
Engines: mercury 2.5 mercury 2.4 mercury 150 pro xs
Cruising area: channel islands
Join Date: Jul 2012
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must be do they really go for that much money?
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03-10-2012, 11:51 PM
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Country: UK
Location: london
Occupation: Powerboat Skipper
Interests: Boats , bikes!
Boat name: Renegade
Boat make: GPV-RENEGADE
Engines: 150 HO etec
Cruising area: Thames, south coast, anywhere!
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: london
Posts: 2,330
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looks VERY clean and a late ish motor. Reckon its worth it but as ever its if people want to pay the money. i mean what as a fully working 4 wheel breaked trailer worth? late motor, full trim and hydruali steering if you had to put a nice rig together?
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04-10-2012, 08:11 AM
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Country: Uk
Location: London
Occupation: Mercury main dealer
Boat make: Baba
Engines: 200xs
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Originally Posted by Renegade
looks VERY clean and a late ish motor. Reckon its worth it but as ever its if people want to pay the money. i mean what as a fully working 4 wheel breaked trailer worth? late motor, full trim and hydruali steering if you had to put a nice rig together?
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If you look at it like that my p21 was just over 23k to build. I no it would never sell for that but i wonder what it will be worth in 4 or 5 years time.
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04-10-2012, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by patrick d
must be do they really go for that much money?
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The guy with the p18 moulds is after around 14k for trimmed boat only
So 9k boat with engine and trailer sounds good if in good order ,problem is the price of every thing has gone though the roof in GB
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04-10-2012, 09:19 AM
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Country: Uk
Location: London
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Engines: 200xs
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Do you think pepole would pay more for an original phantom over a copy or do you think now days it makes no differance ?
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04-10-2012, 09:58 AM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: london
Occupation: Powerboat Skipper
Interests: Boats , bikes!
Boat name: Renegade
Boat make: GPV-RENEGADE
Engines: 150 HO etec
Cruising area: Thames, south coast, anywhere!
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: london
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Originally Posted by pro-rig
Do you think pepole would pay more for an original phantom over a copy or do you think now days it makes no differance ?
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im just a realistic person i guess. its how much would it cost to put a rig together with a late motor. the late motors obviously are worth more and to get a boat really up to scratch costs as you know.
and obviously supply and demand. hull itself has a base price based on condition.
customising how ever may not raise the price, same as cars then its personal taste.
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04-10-2012, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by pro-rig
Do you think pepole would pay more for an original phantom over a copy or do you think now days it makes no differance ?
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If the boat comes out of the Baker tooling so you have paid for the right to build and the boat is built to same lay up as Steve Baker did by boat building craftsmen there should be no difference .The problem has been that the Baker build was changed by some builders and some very weighty phantoms turned up.The only way to get the phantoms back on track is to hope the moulds end up with builders that gives a shit and are not in it for money,but the love of the boat
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04-10-2012, 10:20 AM
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Registered User
Country: Uk
Location: London
Occupation: Mercury main dealer
Boat make: Baba
Engines: 200xs
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Location: London
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Originally Posted by russ williams
If the boat comes out of the Baker tooling so you have paid for the right to build and the boat is built to same lay up as Steve Baker did by boat building craftsmen there should be no difference .The problem has been that the Baker build was changed by some builders and some very weighty phantoms turned up.The only way to get the phantoms back on track is to hope the moulds end up with builders that gives a shit and are not in it for money,but the love of the boat
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couldnt agree more
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04-10-2012, 02:47 PM
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Registered User
Country: uk
Location: salcombe
Occupation: semi retired
Interests: racing(middle east class 3 6l)
Boat name: still no worries
Boat make: phantom18
Engines: 2.5 efi
Cruising area: salcombe
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: salcombe
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value !!!!!!
my 18 cost me about £5000 new in 97 so how much is it worth now ? i recon about £0 (£333 a year thats not bad) the only value can really be in the engine trailer steering tank etc.
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04-10-2012, 03:25 PM
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Registered User
Country: engalnd
Location: south west
Interests: ski racing
Boat name: Jack'd up, hellraiser
Boat make: Bernico 19 ET, ring 16
Engines: merc 135, merc 175, yam 90
Cruising area: Plymouth
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: south west
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well im currently selling my baker built 1982 P21 for £2500 i suppose if you do the maths and break down all the little bits like steering, rex bits, gauges, fuel tank, alloys, trailer lights and trailer i am really giving the hull away. However i wouldnt say the hull had no value.
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04-10-2012, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by still no worries
my 18 cost me about £5000 new in 97 so how much is it worth now ? i recon about £0 (£333 a year thats not bad) the only value can really be in the engine trailer steering tank etc.
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I am sure there's loads on here would have your p18 only if it's worth £0 I think they would pull your arm on that price
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04-10-2012, 03:50 PM
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Registered User
Country: uk
Location: salcombe
Occupation: semi retired
Interests: racing(middle east class 3 6l)
Boat name: still no worries
Boat make: phantom18
Engines: 2.5 efi
Cruising area: salcombe
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: salcombe
Posts: 499
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p 21
hi russ
have you sorted the 21 moulds out yet ?
derek
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04-10-2012, 04:06 PM
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Country: Guernsey Channel Isles
Location: West Coast
Occupation: Hotelier
Interests: Powerboat racing
Boat name: Vodkatini,Cap Camarat,Easy RiderSuper Rider & Hirrondelle
Boat make: Phantom 21,Jeaneau 925 Avenger19.Lorne Campbell Slipstream Tremlett 21.Tigershark 21
Engines: Volvo 5 litre,Merc 115 Tower,Twin 250 Suzukis and 145 Mercruiser LX
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Ah ha -The depreciation curve !
Buy em right sell em right I say
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04-10-2012, 04:25 PM
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Country: england
Location: the grim north
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Cruising area: tyne
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There's an ex ski racer with 150efi on boats and outboards for £5500
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04-10-2012, 04:45 PM
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Registered User
Country: engalnd
Location: south west
Interests: ski racing
Boat name: Jack'd up, hellraiser
Boat make: Bernico 19 ET, ring 16
Engines: merc 135, merc 175, yam 90
Cruising area: Plymouth
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: south west
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Link?
Which one is that?
The one at the top is also ex ski race, was willpower, then extreme then push on...
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04-10-2012, 04:50 PM
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Registered User
Country: BRISTOL UK
Location: NR BATH
Occupation: SPARKY
Interests: Relaxing
Boat name: Payed for
Boat make: Formula 36 pc
Engines: Twin mercrusers 7.4l v8 turbo diesel on shafts
Cruising area: NATIONALY
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: NR BATH
Posts: 120
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p20
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04-10-2012, 04:58 PM
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Location: the grim north
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Cruising area: tyne
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04-10-2012, 05:42 PM
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Country: UK
Location: Weston Super Mare
Occupation: Electrical Engineer
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nice boat that wizard, 9K seems a little overpriced for the ex push on though!
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