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Old 29-04-2009, 09:23 AM   #21
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I personally think that the 23 is the nicest looking and best proportioned boat of all the Phantom models.

Before going down the route of basing a new boat on Warlord, for some time Steve kept promising to draw me up a new boat that would be effectively a 33' version of the P23. Sadly, once in his retirement, that didn't happen.

I'm sure it would have made a fab looking and very capable boat.
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Old 29-04-2009, 10:34 AM   #22
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If you get Steve permission and a copy of the original drawings, scaling them up and making drawings/templates for a 33 foot version is not a big job.
I agree that the 23 the best looking of all the phantom's. I especially like the bow and the spray rails towards the bow. Very nice!
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Old 29-04-2009, 11:30 AM   #23
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I guess a straight scale up would be pretty easy, but it doesn't really work like that does it.

Scaling up the P23 to 33' would give a beam of over 8'6", where as 7'6" would be the prefered beam.

Maybe at some point in his retirement I can pester him into drawing something for me.
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Old 29-04-2009, 11:31 AM   #24
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re p23

How would a 23 go compared to my 21 with 300x?,I am hopeing to find a good late 23 boat only.
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Old 29-04-2009, 11:55 AM   #25
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How would a 23 go compared to my 21 with 300x?,I am hopeing to find a good late 23 boat only.
With a 300x, the P23 should do around 80mph. The P23 is (after my opinion) better for rough conditions. A friend of mine has a P21 with a 250 Optimax. The boat is fast, but he can hardly go to the max when there are some waves. When we drove side by side, the P21 was much more nervous.
You want to buy a good late 23 ft. Phantom hull? I don't know a second person who is selling a P23. Have you received my pm?
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Old 29-04-2009, 01:48 PM   #26
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Hi , yes the P23 was and is the nicest off the lot , and not because i own one ,but i think the 19 goes after, @least for me.
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Old 29-04-2009, 01:55 PM   #27
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I guess a straight scale up would be pretty easy, but it doesn't really work like that does it.

Scaling up the P23 to 33' would give a beam of over 8'6", where as 7'6" would be the prefered beam.

Maybe at some point in his retirement I can pester him into drawing something for me.
If you made a quick 3D model of the 23 footer, you could use a different scaling factor for each axis, to get your beam at 67 and maintain the deadrise. This would reduce the longitudinal curvature in the bow slightly though, but that is not necessarily a bad thing? Or as most phantoms are fairly parallel aft you could uniformly scale it, and then just extend the model to get your 33 as per the Warlord. Should not really tamper with this old master piece though
67 beam is by chance exactly the same as what we have ended up with on the bananashark project.
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Old 29-04-2009, 03:04 PM   #28
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6'7" overall beam? or chine beam?
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Old 29-04-2009, 04:27 PM   #29
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The aft chine beam is 6' 6.2"...so close enough...
Currently 34' overall.
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I remember a new P23 which belonged to the brothers next door to Adam and Scott Youngers father mid 90's,
Yellow white it was, it was just immaculate, had a single EFI on then went to a pair, thats the boat that got me in to Phantoms, just stunning it was.
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Old 29-04-2009, 06:42 PM   #31
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I remember a new P23 which belonged to the brothers next door to Adam and Scott Youngers father mid 90's,
Yellow white it was, it was just immaculate, had a single EFI on then went to a pair, thats the boat that got me in to Phantoms, just stunning it was.
I think John G owns that now.
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Old 29-04-2009, 10:49 PM   #32
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I'm pretty sure that a P23 would do 80mph+ with a 300 Optimax XS on the back. If I had the money, I would buy such an engine, get it to 350hp and have a lot of fun at 85mph+++.
Or you could get a 21 SportCat and get there with a bridgeport!

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I personally think that the 23 is the nicest looking and best proportioned boat of all the Phantom models.
I have to agree, that's why I asked about the freeboard. It's a nice looking boat, don't think I have seen one before!

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Old 30-04-2009, 10:08 AM   #34
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I think John G owns that now.
Originaly built for John Evans, rigged by Neil.
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Old 30-04-2009, 08:41 PM   #36
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when i had mine, with the 225promax we were gettin around 75mph 2up

in most conditions, awesome boat! will get another one day! best one i had out of ring 20, p21, ring ranger 25
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lewis, I just about bought your boat before opting for a P20, if it was the one about 2 years ago for 6500 for sale in Kent!
The guy selling it said the owner was abroard!
Did it have a 2 wheeled trailer before your bought it?
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phantom 23

how much boat and trailer,
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how much boat and trailer,
Steve, PM sent.
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