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26-04-2009, 04:30 PM
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Registered User
Country: Germany
Location: South Germany
Boat make: P21
Cruising area: Rhine
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: South Germany
Posts: 156
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Phantom 23
I'm selling my Phantom 23, one of the last originals from 2001 which was built from Steve Baker himself. The boat is in a real good condition, never raced, CE-certified, new trailer from 2008. Very fast and safe speedboat (110km/h+), ideal for real rough conditions.
Just take a look at:
http://www.boatshop24.de/web/de/such...totalcount=285
I'm only selling the P23 because I'm planning to buy a smaller Formula 2 boat (unfortunately, the hull of my P23 is a little bit too long).
So just give me a call (Tel: 0049 - 176 - 20519715 ) or send me a private message to get one of the last original P23 built by Steve Baker.
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27-04-2009, 03:22 PM
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Registered User
Country: Germany
Location: South Germany
Boat make: P21
Cruising area: Rhine
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: South Germany
Posts: 156
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It's also possible to buy the P23 without the trailer.
Price without trailer: 14.900 €.
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27-04-2009, 10:40 PM
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Registered User
Country: Netherlands
Location: Harderwijk
Occupation: See my website ;)
Interests: duh ......
Boat make: Seaquel 600XS & Seaquel 700XS
Engines: Merc 300XS
Cruising area: Veluwemeer/Ijsselmeer
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Harderwijk
Posts: 421
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Would you sell without the engine and trailer , if so at what price ?
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27-04-2009, 11:16 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Boat name: Johnny-Rude
Boat make: a few
Engines: Seagull with hi five prop
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 284
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ph@ntastic
Would you sell without the engine and trailer , if so at what price ?
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Seaquel Not Good?
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Brian
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28-04-2009, 08:03 AM
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Registered User
Country: Germany
Location: South Germany
Boat make: P21
Cruising area: Rhine
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: South Germany
Posts: 156
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ph@ntastic
Would you sell without the engine and trailer , if so at what price ?
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PM sent.
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28-04-2009, 09:34 AM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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That would be a lovely boat with that motor.
Reckon you'd be blown away Mr Phantastic.
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28-04-2009, 12:40 PM
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Registered User
Country: Netherlands
Location: Harderwijk
Occupation: See my website ;)
Interests: duh ......
Boat make: Seaquel 600XS & Seaquel 700XS
Engines: Merc 300XS
Cruising area: Veluwemeer/Ijsselmeer
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Harderwijk
Posts: 421
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Brian the Seaquel is (after being rebuild) perfect but doesn't give me the speed a deep-V like a Phantom will give , other than that it runs lovely with the 300XS .
Like Jon say's i also think the 300XS will be a better engine for a Phantom like Paddy's than a Seaquel .
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28-04-2009, 12:45 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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Steve Baker considers the Later P23 to be the best open water hull he designed (for it's size).
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28-04-2009, 07:37 PM
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Registered User
Country: Guernsey
Occupation: Engineering
Boat make: None, boo!
Engines: Turbines mainly!
Cruising area: The inside of my workshop!
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,646
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Any idea what kind of speed a P23 would do with a 300 on the back? What are they like in the rough compared to a P20?
James
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28-04-2009, 08:38 PM
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Registered User
Location: GOLDEN MILE
Boat name: LILY THE PINK AND TERMINATOR 11
Boat make: PHANTOM 21 AND 20
Engines: 2.5 EFI X 2
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: GOLDEN MILE
Posts: 2,475
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Quote:
Originally Posted by larby
Any idea what kind of speed a P23 would do with a 300 on the back? What are they like in the rough compared to a P20?
James
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I think Nick Wards P23 with 300 promax did a touch under 80
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28-04-2009, 09:00 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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Was it a promax, or promax X?
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28-04-2009, 09:12 PM
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Registered User
Location: GOLDEN MILE
Boat name: LILY THE PINK AND TERMINATOR 11
Boat make: PHANTOM 21 AND 20
Engines: 2.5 EFI X 2
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: GOLDEN MILE
Posts: 2,475
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Fuller
Was it a promax, or promax X?
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Pretty sure it was a promax and not the x.
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28-04-2009, 09:19 PM
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Registered User
Location: GOLDEN MILE
Boat name: LILY THE PINK AND TERMINATOR 11
Boat make: PHANTOM 21 AND 20
Engines: 2.5 EFI X 2
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: GOLDEN MILE
Posts: 2,475
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Yup just a promax
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28-04-2009, 09:27 PM
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Registered User
Location: GOLDEN MILE
Boat name: LILY THE PINK AND TERMINATOR 11
Boat make: PHANTOM 21 AND 20
Engines: 2.5 EFI X 2
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: GOLDEN MILE
Posts: 2,475
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Try again
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28-04-2009, 09:59 PM
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Registered User
Country: gibraltar
Location: gibraltar
Occupation: Shop Proprietor
Interests: ocr,sleeping
Boat name: The Rock
Boat make: Phantom 19XL
Engines: Yamaha 130B
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: gibraltar
Posts: 331
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Hi all,
i can say that the few times i used a P23 down ere in Gib mid to late 90s, what an AMAZINGLY INCREDIBLE BOAT in the ROUGH , what PHANTOM isant  but the 23 took rough and i mean rough .
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28-04-2009, 10:18 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 6,891
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It looks like it's doing 100mph while stationary.
Quote:
Originally Posted by roofer
Try again
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29-04-2009, 12:51 AM
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Registered User
Country: Ireland
Location: Dublin
Occupation: Boatbuilder
Boat make: Hydrostream V-king, 650SS OCR ,Ring 21, Ring 18, Phantom 18.
Engines: 300Hp Mercury 2.4, 130 Yamaha, Bridgeport EFI, XR6, Merc 200.
Cruising area: Malahide, Dublin
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Dublin
Posts: 1,803
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Quote:
Originally Posted by roofer
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Nice colour scheme! 
Is there much difference in freeboard between the 21 and 23?
Alan
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29-04-2009, 01:44 AM
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The Doc
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 8,291
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I dont think theres a lot if any at all
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29-04-2009, 07:46 AM
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Registered User
Country: Germany
Location: South Germany
Boat make: P21
Cruising area: Rhine
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: South Germany
Posts: 156
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Some pics of my P23...
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29-04-2009, 08:07 AM
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Registered User
Country: Germany
Location: South Germany
Boat make: P21
Cruising area: Rhine
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: South Germany
Posts: 156
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Quote:
Originally Posted by larby
Any idea what kind of speed a P23 would do with a 300 on the back? What are they like in the rough compared to a P20?
James
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I'm pretty sure that a P23 would do 80mph+ with a 300 Optimax XS on the back. If I had the money, I would buy such an engine, get it to 350hp and have a lot of fun at 85mph+++.
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