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Old 19-05-2009, 07:10 PM   #1
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Potential CTC participant needs to replace his blown Speedmaster 3 drive complete R/H and needs the other serviced. Recommendations or any ideas would be appreciated soonest?
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Potential CTC participant needs to replace his blown Speedmaster 3 drive complete R/H and needs the other serviced. Recommendations or any ideas would be appreciated soonest?
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Mike, I noticed Jim Brooker had quite a number of mk 111 spares at beaulieu. Sadly no service tools though. In respect of maintainability, I think pash has been quite wise going with konrads
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Mike, I noticed Jim Brooker had quite a number of mk 111 spares at beaulieu. Sadly no service tools though. In respect of maintainability, I think pash has been quite wise going with konrads
Thanks for that, I have found someone with the tools but no drives, will talk to Pash.
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And you know why they aren't right.
Oh they are right, but just not for my petrol engines apart from that there is nothing wrong with them (So I am lead to believe)
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IVE GOT 2
No you haven't.

According to you:-

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I’ve just had an offer of £4,000.00 each for the old No. 3 Drives from Germany ...
Surely you didn't turn down 8k for them.
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Jon think you need to get your eyes tested and read what was written not what you think I said...

Nice edit at the last minute Jon.........
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OK, which bit have I misread, misrepresented, or altered at the last minute? (other than removing the bit highlighted red, as it was irrelevent)

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Its a typo.... but that makes it a win win situation for the Charity or If Mattís OK with an amendment we can revise it to make sense "In the spirit of the Contract" its a usual legal occurrence.... - Well spotted......



1) Its Not a hoplessly optomistic project - Its a "Challanging" Project
2) It wont.... I'm Still under my projected budget even with the new drives..
3) I did........ - Having considered all of the advice offered - but there were extenuating circumstances......




1) Iím not Jon, But I do object to being told it's "just a load of old bits nailed together haphazardly for the purposes of unfairly winning a bet." She isn't..
2) It Isn't....
3) I havenít Ė Iím still under budget.... Because Iíve been canny, Bought the Scarab for $8000 and Shipping Cost $3,500 with money I had banked in the USA @ $2=£1 so the Scarab cost me £5,750 add Vat & Import Duty @ £1,012.00 the total package set me back £6,762.00, Iíve sold the drives from her for £1000.00 = £5,762.00, the inner shields for £500.00 = 5,262.00, the Trim Tabs for £250.00 = £5,012.00, Iíve now got a yard Trailer for nothing (say nominal figure of £500.00) = £4,512.00, Sold the Hull for £1250.00 = £3,262.00 So the Engines cost me £3,262.00 for the pair New Drives are going to cost south of £14,000.00 for the pair (I have done a deal with the Manufacturer) and Iíve just had an offer of £4,000.00 each for the old No. 3 Drives from Germany so that makes the New Drives £6,000.00 Net. So cost of Boat (D2S) + Scarab + Drives (Net) + New and reconditioned parts + Labour + New Paint + New Bolster Seats = £29,612.00 Inc Contingency... against a budget of £30,000.00
4) I know that Jon, you told me, Tony told me, Mrs P told Me in fact nearly everyone on here told me - but I couldnít stand by and see her Rot away to nothing - Its an adventure for me and the fulfilment of an ambition for John regarding his late father..

Jimmy has answered this himself.....

But her last owner spent nearly £40K on purchasing her and getting her to a recon Hull... add that to my budget of £30K and that getting close to £70K for the package....
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Oh they are right, but just not for my petrol engines apart from that there is nothing wrong with them (So I am lead to believe)
Unless the participant is running sabres, they're not right, otherwise you'd be running them!
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Iíve just had an offer of £4,000.00 each for the old No. 3 Drives from Germany

The Bit in red Jon it was an "offer" turns out the chap was a bit of a wheel kicker and so far has not made 2 appointments to come over and collect them. So I havent turned down £4,000 each - he just has not paid for them or collected them....

So If Mike is interested (at a reduced price for a member of the4 "Circle")then a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush..

things change and plans evolve as you well know Jon


"Less is more.

To fit 'D' class, it needs to be <8.5 litre, and not have headers (and be fundimentally a standard production unit), so 500hp is about the sensible limit.

Won't be the fastest boat on the block, but top speed aint everything.

Restoration, no, refurb, sort of. Just budget racing really." Warlord thread
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Unless the participant is running sabres, they're not right, otherwise you'd be running them!
Actually Matt I was put off them even more by what Jimmy Brooker was saying about rebuilds - may well have run them this year but could not afford to keep sending them back the the States as I was told the tools were not available over here.

If mike has found the tools he's half way there..
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things change and plans evolve as you well know Jon


"Less is more.

To fit 'D' class, it needs to be <8.5 litre, and not have headers (and be fundimentally a standard production unit), so 500hp is about the sensible limit.

Won't be the fastest boat on the block, but top speed aint everything.

Restoration, no, refurb, sort of. Just budget racing really." Warlord thread
No idea what your point is!
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No idea what your point is!
Sometimes our plans evolve as yours did with Warlord thats my point, The Drives are what they are, and if Mike is interested then great, if not ok..
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Sometimes our plans evolve as yours did with Warlord
Did they?

Please tell me about my changing plans, as I don't recal changing anything.
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Jon,
Is this the full half hour argument or just a recession busting 15 minute version?
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It's the full half hour.

Now, you've been trawling through the Warlord thread to find something to try and trip me up, posted what you think is a clever post, so please go ahead, what plans have I changed?
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It's the full half hour.
http://boatmad.com/forum/showthread....hlight=warlord

http://boatmad.com/forum/showthread....hlight=warlord reply 6 & 7

Just saying how things change thats all not trying to trip you up at all... whats the point in that?
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