Jon Fuller
numbskull
- Joined
- Mar 12, 2004
- Messages
- 15,942
- Location
- South
- Cruising area
- South Coast
- Boat name
- Leviathan
- Boat make
- Phantom 28
Confusion rules OK
Right, I’ve been racking my brain trying to work out why a boatbuilder/seller would show support for another builder who had clearly ‘Taken’ someone else’s design, and was marketing it as his own. It made no sense to me as most builders are extremely protective of their products and would steer well clear of anyone they thought could potentially be a threat, by that I mean someone who may take a liking to their product and choose it as their next target!
Anyone who’s spent thousands of man-hours, and ££££ creating a unique product would almost want to stand guard over it, for fear of a dreaded ‘Splasher’ getting their hands on one, making a minor alteration, and going to market with it.
Then it hit me!
So,
Hands up everyone who can state categorically “who designed their boat” and, can be absolutely certain that it was built with the original designers knowledge and permission?
Andre??.........no, thought not!
So there it is! Any builder who isn't too sure of the parentage or legitimacy of their craft, has to take the middle lane!
Sad really innit!
This leads me to another point. I started thinking about this whole Splashing thing, and it seems to me, that by far the biggest offenders seem to be the RHIB builders!
I’m compiling a list of British companies who’ve marketed a sports boats and RHIBs that are without doubt solely the work of the company who is building/ marketing it, or, have enlisted and paid for the services of a designer, bought the rights etc. ie, all the British companies who REALLY own their work.
So remember, this is a list of LEGIT boatbuilders, but does not include freelance designers who don’t build themselves. Such as Don Shead, Lorne Campbell etc.
Firstly, the hard boats:
Hunton Powerboats (Jeff Hunton)
Seaquel (Ray Innes)
Dateline boats (Gerry Johnson)
Fletcher (Norman Fletcher)
Marshan (Terry Sleap)
Phantom (Steve Baker)
Ring Powercraft (Mike Ring)
Shakespeare (various, inc Mike Ring, Lorne Campbell & Victory design)
Extreme Marine (Mike Ring)
Revenger boats (Don Shead / Lorne Campbell)
Avenger boats (Don Shead)
Driver boats (Doug Driver)
Tremlett (??????)
Cougar Marine (various, inc James Beard, Clive Curtis, Peter Berkett…spelling??)
Crusader (Mike Ring)
That’s all I can think of at the minute, but I’m sure there are many more, and I welcome any suggestions/additions.
Now RHIBs:
Scorpion (David Marsh)
Humber (………)
Ribcraft (…….)
Phantom Evolution (Steve Baker & Neil Holmes)
K4+ (Adam Younger)
BananaShark (Lorne Campbell)
Pascoe International (Ocke Mannerfelt)
Revenger (Don Shead/Lorne Campbell)
I'm pretty sure the first 3 rib Co's are proper, but need some help with designers names.
Right, I’ve been racking my brain trying to work out why a boatbuilder/seller would show support for another builder who had clearly ‘Taken’ someone else’s design, and was marketing it as his own. It made no sense to me as most builders are extremely protective of their products and would steer well clear of anyone they thought could potentially be a threat, by that I mean someone who may take a liking to their product and choose it as their next target!
Anyone who’s spent thousands of man-hours, and ££££ creating a unique product would almost want to stand guard over it, for fear of a dreaded ‘Splasher’ getting their hands on one, making a minor alteration, and going to market with it.
Then it hit me!
So,
Hands up everyone who can state categorically “who designed their boat” and, can be absolutely certain that it was built with the original designers knowledge and permission?
Andre??.........no, thought not!
So there it is! Any builder who isn't too sure of the parentage or legitimacy of their craft, has to take the middle lane!
Sad really innit!
This leads me to another point. I started thinking about this whole Splashing thing, and it seems to me, that by far the biggest offenders seem to be the RHIB builders!
I’m compiling a list of British companies who’ve marketed a sports boats and RHIBs that are without doubt solely the work of the company who is building/ marketing it, or, have enlisted and paid for the services of a designer, bought the rights etc. ie, all the British companies who REALLY own their work.
So remember, this is a list of LEGIT boatbuilders, but does not include freelance designers who don’t build themselves. Such as Don Shead, Lorne Campbell etc.
Firstly, the hard boats:
Hunton Powerboats (Jeff Hunton)
Seaquel (Ray Innes)
Dateline boats (Gerry Johnson)
Fletcher (Norman Fletcher)
Marshan (Terry Sleap)
Phantom (Steve Baker)
Ring Powercraft (Mike Ring)
Shakespeare (various, inc Mike Ring, Lorne Campbell & Victory design)
Extreme Marine (Mike Ring)
Revenger boats (Don Shead / Lorne Campbell)
Avenger boats (Don Shead)
Driver boats (Doug Driver)
Tremlett (??????)
Cougar Marine (various, inc James Beard, Clive Curtis, Peter Berkett…spelling??)
Crusader (Mike Ring)
That’s all I can think of at the minute, but I’m sure there are many more, and I welcome any suggestions/additions.
Now RHIBs:
Scorpion (David Marsh)
Humber (………)
Ribcraft (…….)
Phantom Evolution (Steve Baker & Neil Holmes)
K4+ (Adam Younger)
BananaShark (Lorne Campbell)
Pascoe International (Ocke Mannerfelt)
Revenger (Don Shead/Lorne Campbell)
I'm pretty sure the first 3 rib Co's are proper, but need some help with designers names.