Foam Flyer is home

[Mike Lloyd]

Yup !!!

This is the same pva used to bond laminates during the hot or cold moulding process.

I was wondering whether it is easier to sand back the hull surface and key the wood to accept fibreglass tissue only with bonding resin. to achieve a smooth suface and waterproof ???

The idea is to bead blast the whole hull and topsides first and the sheath in fibreglass matting etc but am checking with the surveyor first in view of this exsiting sheathing issue. Thanks for your help.

 

[larby]

Interesting to hear about this sheathing thing... I was only wondering the other day what could be done to preserve my wooden cat. Do most wooden (race) boats have the bilges sheathed too? That would seem to be the case in mine as surely any tiny amount of standing water could rot through from the inside? I worry that i can't get to about 95% of the inside of the hull of my cat, so can't see what's going on in there...

 

[gerry.p]

Cascover

cascover was manifactured by wessex resins and is no longer available it has
been replaced by epoxy resin,
i have spoken to wessex,s about covering cascover with epoxy and they will
not guarantee that it will bond correctly,
i do not think i would even try with f/glass even with bonding agent f/glass is not an adhesive,
i have seen on a old boat which was glassed the whole layup come away from the hull,
if there is any moisture in the timber it will cause trouble
we have a boat that was built by Pochin's back in 1966 and the hull was cacovered from new and the wood laminate is still like the day it was made,
on ours they laid the cascover and then a fine filler was use to fill the cloth
then a nylon based paint used to complete the process,
as for removing cascover you will end up losing the top laminate of the timber
and you could end up with a lot of work,
if the cacover is in good condition i would be tempted to leave well alone,
Gerry
"oh the fun with wooden boats i'm glad 'miss speedbird (ex tolstar) is g/fibre"

 

[FLYING FISH]

Cascover Sheathing

Now that`s a term from the past.As a Vosper apprentice one job I had was to Cascover the decks of the Brave type fast patrol boats.We split in two teams one port of centreline and one starboard,and the team that finished first got the bonus money.No face masks or rubber gloves,just get on with it,and no air bubbles in the deck, boy!
The topsides down to the waterline were done as well,below this was a different type of sheathing.The nylon linen (in rolls about 5ft wide) was rather like grp reinforcement material as I remember with glue used by the bucket load,so you had to be really careful to squeeze all the air out between the glue soaked linen and the deck as you worked your way along the boat.

 

[FLYING FISH]

And There`s More

Another piece unearthed from the fish files.

 

[Matt]

Soda blasting!

The idea is to bead blast the whole hull and topsides first and the sheath in fibreglass matting etc but am checking with the surveyor first in view of this exsiting sheathing issue. Thanks for your help.

 

[Mike Lloyd]

Soda blasting!

You are right of course Matt, I was wrong, soda blasting is correct.

 

[timtap]

Allen Mclachlen, the designer of Foam Flyer sent this original Westcraft Brochure along with other interesting paperwork that I will be pleased to send on to you.

 

[Delta28]

Cascover info

A little late in the day, but just found this article in an August 1961 MB&Y:
(Apologies, had to photo - scanner not recognised by computer and about to be severely damaged by 14lb sledgehammer...)

 

[Mike Lloyd]

Thanks for that Delta 28 but once our rose tinted glasses had been taken off we realised that we dare not try to race Foam Flyer now. The power needed to make her competitive would be too much. We have been told that if we tried to run her into big seas at the speed required it would in all probablity damage her and that would not be fair to such a pretty boat. If we had decided to run her at 30knots it would have not been so bad but we were having to think in the region of 55knots!!

So we have had to revert to plan B which is to take part in Marathon Racing in a boat that will take those stresses and reluctantly put Foam Flyer up for sale as a project. I am sure someone will want to take her off our hands as she just needs a good home to go to. She will make a superb weekend cruising boat for someone.

 

[Ben]

So we have had to revert to plan B which is to take part in Marathon Racing in a boat that will take those stresses and reluctantly put Foam Flyer up for sale as a project. .

Noisy?

 

[Mike Lloyd]

You have got it in one Ben.

 

[Mike Lloyd]

We haven't the time or the resources now to renovate Foam Flyer . She really needs a home with someone to restore her to her former glory because she could be such a pretty boat once more. If anyone is interested in a project like this give me a call on 07860 285438. or a PM. We are open to offers. Full surveyors report available.

 

[THUNDERBOLT]

Foamflyer

Did you not have any luck with the colleges Mike?
do you want a note put on copoc about her.

Mike

 

[Mike Lloyd]

Did you not have any luck with the colleges Mike?
do you want a note put on copoc about her.

Mike

No. One said she was too big and the other had a two year waiting list so yes it would be appreciated if you could put something up on the COPOC site in a similar vein to my post above.

Thanks for your help Mike.

 

[Roger V]

Anyone know if this was the Foam Flyer that was in the boatyard at Teignmouth ,and later moored on the river off of Shaldon?
Had two GM V8's as I recall.