Racing in Turkey

[Adam]

Just been checking out info on the UIM experimental class as raced in Turkey.

Class is for 225hp catamarans, ideally with canopies.

Further details at www.ioc-tr.com

photos from 2004

 

[Adam]

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[Adam]

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[Adam]

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[Jon Fuller]

so if you can't get a canopy, a roll cage will do! ...WTF

 

[BluFin]

Great looking boats, but loose the enclosed cockpits..........I hate em! IMHO I ann't ever strapping myself in a boat, nor to a missile nor not an achor.

 

[verytricky]

Great looking boats, but loose the enclosed cockpits..........I hate em! IMHO I ann't ever strapping myself in a boat, nor to a missile nor not an achor.

I understand not strapping yourself to an anchor, and a missile, But why on earth would you not prefer a canopied boat?

 

[BluFin]

Just dont like em. I have always be thrown clear.
Never been in one, dont want too. I suspect it gives you a great feeling of invincibility.
If side by side with a regular set up a canopy boat will win as the crew are more protected & will take for want of a better term, more risks I suspect.
It’s a totally nobbas point of view, based on the fact it’s just my own preference and bias.
To old for little boats & bigger one is required to be enclosed under 508 if over 2 ltr so pleasure boating it will be.

 

[BluFin]

so if you can't get a canopy, a roll cage will do! ...WTF

Oh, Just worked it out , racing in shallow water, so you dont hit ya head on the bottom.....................No !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Look at the pics on the web site, to stop the people crewing getting run over by another boat. gulp !!!!!

 

[Jon]

Gotta say, i also dislike canopied boats.

Open boat racing is more enjoyable for both crew and spectators in my humble opinion.

Whatever motorised sport you look back at through history, the high risk pioneering days are always more exciting.

Anyone remember the early Russian open Space Rockets?

 

[verytricky]

I dont like breaking things - Myself being first priority. I have seen a crash in Largs at about 70 mph, and the crew popped out of their V24 and actually helped in the recovery of the boat, with no damage to themselves.

I know another couple who crashed a week later at a lower speed and both were in hospital for a while, and when I saw them next they had briuses, pulled muscels, one broken arm and were still walking funny 4 weeks later.

Not that I intend to crash - but if I do I want to crash safely.

Gavin the Brown did a spectacular crash as navigator with 'a certain woman driver' in Cowes 2003, and just got wet. If it were an open boat would he have been as lucky?

 

[Jon]

Speed is the culprit here as is so often the case in motor sport. Money buys trophy's through faster engine outputs.

The speed is not a main consideration for the spectators as much as the quality & number of competitors participating are.

Open boat racing at restrictive speeds and large numbers of competitors is in my opinion a win win situation.

 

[Jon Fuller]

Open boat racing is more enjoyable for both crew and spectators in my humble opinion.

Sorry, but I agree with Mr Tricky, once your speed is anywhere over mid sixties, it can all get very painful if things go wrong, and 80 plus!...Na, safety cell for me after that.

 

[verytricky]

I may be different but.....

The speed is not a main consideration for the spectators as much as the quality & number of competitors participating are.

I race for me. Completely selfish. I want to beat the guy next to me and go as fast as possible. I dont really care about the spectators except when my parents come over, and then I place them in a boat on a turn mark.

I want to go as fast as I feel I can *safely* go. So at Ramsgate, I backed off ( except for the last 45 seconds... )

 

[Jon]

(I RACE FOR ME)

Yet you obviously dont take risks by opting for the safety cell.

I want to be a winner but i dont want to get hurt!

Does that sound like the stuff the worlds greatest hero's would say?

No Pain, No Gain.

Life is full of risks, we must accept that fact from the moment we are born. Risk and Gains are inextricably linked, the greater the risk, the greater the Reward. Thats not my rule, its just the way it is. Its why Steve Curtis (whilst accomplished) will never go down in History along side Cambell, Kneivel, Sheene, Lauda etc.

This does not mean that i advocate people putting their lives at risk, just that i would like to see the speed of the boats reduced in favour of open cockpit racing. I beleive that it is the only way the sport is going to appeal to a greater audience.

 

[BluFin]

I don’t have an opinion either way, you choose how and what you want to race.
It doesn’t have to be fast (80+) to be competitive or spectacular.
If you wanna run an open boat why not it’s you ass at the end of the day & your choice. Oh! no they wouldn’t let that happen coz then there would be a weight advantage to non canopied boat.
You can get rid of the weight rule as well. If you choose a lightweight for calm days groovy, heavyweights for rough days.
If they/you want accident free races then slow the boats down by more regulation & restrictions.
Racing should improve the breed.
All about choice and easy applicability. Something the powers to be have forgotten possibly?

 

[Jon Fuller]

This does not mean that i advocate people putting their lives at risk, just that i would like to see the speed of the boats reduced in favour of open cockpit racing. I beleive that it is the only way the sport is going to appeal to a greater audience.

wot a load of bolix!

Do you think F1 would be more popular if safety cells and racing harnesses were not allowed?

It's skill that wins races, not how big the driver thinks his balls are.

 

[verytricky]

Hero - Me?

Does that sound like the stuff the worlds greatest hero's would say?

I've done the hero shyte, it is not all that it is cut out to be. What I do want is a nice *safe* race. It is supposed to be fun. It is supposed to be about us, and not the sponsors, organisers or even spectators....

 

[Jon]

Re: Hero - Me?

I've done the hero shyte, it is not all that it is cut out to be. What I do want is a nice *safe* race. It is supposed to be fun. It is supposed to be about us, and not the sponsors, organisers or even spectators....

Then go about you business and enjoy.

 

[Jon]

wot a load of bolix!

Do you think F1 would be more popular if safety cells and racing harnesses were not allowed?

It's skill that wins races, not how big the driver thinks his balls are.

I agree, Skill not speed needledick.