Boatmad.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 24-04-2010, 08:38 AM   #1
numbskull
 
Jon Fuller's Avatar
 
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast

Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
Recovered after 62 years

WWII Russian tank with German markings uncovered after 62 years. WWII Buffs will find this interesting.
Even after 62 years (and a little tinkering), they were able to fire up the Diesel engine!

A Komatsu D375A-2 bulldozer pulled the abandoned tank from its tomb under the boggy bank of a lake
near Johvi , Estonia . The Soviet-built T34/76A tank had been resting at the bottom of the lake for 56
years. According to its specifications, it's a 27-ton machine, with a top speed of 53km/hr.

From February to September 1944, heavy battles were fought in the narrow, 50 km-wide, Narva Front in the northeastern part of Estonia . Over 100,000 men were killed and 300,000 men were wounded there. During battles in the summer of 1944, the tank was captured from the Soviet army and used by the German army.
(This is the reason that there are German markings painted on the tank's exterior.)

On 19th September, 1944, German troops began an organized retreat along the Narva front. It is suspected that the tank was then purposefully driven into the lake to conceal it when its captors left the area.

At that time, a local boy walking by the lake, Kurtna Matasjarv, noticed tank tracks leading into the lake but
not coming out anywhere. For two months he saw air bubbles emerging from the lake. This gave him reason
to believe that there must be an armored vehicle at the lake's' bottom. A few years ago, he told the story to
the leader of the local war history club 'Otsing'. Together with other club members, Mr. Igor Shedunov initiated diving expeditions to the bottom of the lake about a year ago. At the depth of 7 metres they discovered the tank resting under a 3 metre layer of peat.

Enthusiasts from the club, under Mr Shedunov's leadership, decided to pull the tank out.

In September of 2000 they turned to Mr. Aleksander Borovkovthe, manager of the Narva Open Pit company
AS Eesti Polevkivi, to rent the company's Komatsu D375A-2 bulldozer. (Currently used at the pit, the Komatsu dozer was manufactured in 1995, and has recorded 19,000 operating hours without major repairs.)

The pulling operation began at 09:00 and was concluded at 15:00, with several technical breaks. The weight of the tank, combined with the travel incline, made for a pulling operation that required significant muscle. The D375A-2 handled the operation with power and style. The weight of the fully-armed tank was around 30 tons,
so the active force required to retrieve it was similar.

A main requirement for the 68-ton dozer was to have enough weight to prevent slippage while moving up the hill.

After the tank surfaced, it turned out to be a 'trophy tank' that had been captured by the German Army in the course of the battle at Sinimaed (Blue Hills) about six weeks before it was sunk in the lake. Altogether, 116 shells were found on board. Remarkably, the tank was in good condition, with NO RUST, and all systems (except the engine) in working condition. This is a very rare machine, especially considering that it fought both on the Russian and the German sides. Plans are underway to fully restore the tank. It will be displayed at a war history museum in the Gorodenko village on the left bank of the River Narv.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	image2.jpg
Views:	266
Size:	90.3 KB
ID:	24209   Click image for larger version

Name:	image3.jpg
Views:	248
Size:	91.3 KB
ID:	24210   Click image for larger version

Name:	image4.jpg
Views:	261
Size:	93.9 KB
ID:	24211   Click image for larger version

Name:	image5.jpg
Views:	235
Size:	105.4 KB
ID:	24212   Click image for larger version

Name:	image6.jpg
Views:	280
Size:	99.9 KB
ID:	24213  

Click image for larger version

Name:	image7.jpg
Views:	288
Size:	106.5 KB
ID:	24214   Click image for larger version

Name:	image8.jpg
Views:	235
Size:	101.6 KB
ID:	24215   Click image for larger version

Name:	image9.jpg
Views:	228
Size:	100.1 KB
ID:	24216   Click image for larger version

Name:	image10.jpg
Views:	357
Size:	86.7 KB
ID:	24217   Click image for larger version

Name:	image11.jpg
Views:	341
Size:	80.7 KB
ID:	24221  

__________________

__________________
.

"I Agree with everything you say really!" - John Cooke to Jon Fuller - 26-01-2013
Jon Fuller is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-04-2010, 08:39 AM   #2
numbskull
 
Jon Fuller's Avatar
 
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast

Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
More...
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	image.jpg
Views:	321
Size:	88.0 KB
ID:	24222   Click image for larger version

Name:	image12.jpg
Views:	255
Size:	85.0 KB
ID:	24223   Click image for larger version

Name:	image13.jpg
Views:	246
Size:	77.7 KB
ID:	24224  
__________________

__________________
.

"I Agree with everything you say really!" - John Cooke to Jon Fuller - 26-01-2013
Jon Fuller is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-04-2010, 11:13 AM   #3
Registered User
 
Bad Boy 717's Avatar
 
Country: UK
Location: Somerset
Occupation: old bloke
Interests: Water Ski Racing, Basic Racing
Boat name: Bad Boy 717, Hotshot 777
Boat make: Phantom 21, Phantom 21
Engines: JSRE Merc 2.5 EFIss 280hp, Merc 2.5 x 2
Cruising area: Weymouth, Weston and rest of UK

Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Somerset
Posts: 529
truely amazing
Bad Boy 717 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-04-2010, 11:34 AM   #4
timtap
 
timtap's Avatar
 
Country: England
Location: Paignton Devon
Occupation: Ex Marine Engineer , Licencee
Interests: Photography, Real Ale .
Boat name: Shooters Too
Boat make: Scarab 22SC
Engines: Mercruiser 270hp
Cruising area: South West

Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Paignton Devon
Posts: 333
Send a message via Yahoo to timtap
Tanks for that !!!! Very interesting !!!
__________________
ʎɐqǝ uo pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ɐ ʎnq ı ǝɯıʇ ʇsɐן ǝɥʇ sı sıɥʇ.
timtap is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-04-2010, 02:30 PM   #5
Registered User
 
dowdy's Avatar
 
Country: shropshire england.
Location: oswestry
Occupation: Retired
Interests: Yodelling
Boat name: Veni Vidi Vici or Conked
Boat make: G.P.14
Engines: 4h.p. Mercury
Cruising area: Cap de Agde

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: oswestry
Posts: 1,311
Your next project for Scrapheap Challenge? Nah,it will never float.
__________________
when in doubt trim outCARPE DIEM
dowdy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-04-2010, 03:29 PM   #6
Ben
Registered User
 
Ben's Avatar
 
Country: US
Location: Virginia
Interests: Quiet desperation
Boat name: A Little Noisy
Boat make: Excalibur 24
Engines: Express Racing 525
Cruising area: Mobjack Bay (where?)

Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Virginia
Posts: 1,974
And they said the cheap and cheerful T34 would never last.
__________________
I thought that having more patience was a result of my getting older. Turns out that I just don't give a sh*t.
Ben is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-04-2010, 06:58 PM   #7
Registered User
 

Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 670
cant believe the condition...even the paint and markings are in A1 order
baj666 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-04-2010, 08:44 AM   #8
Registered User
 
dodgy dave's Avatar
 
Country: United Kingdom
Location: Essex Boy
Occupation: Jack of all trades
Interests: Fast Boats, Fast Cars, Loose Women
Boat name: 197 / Well Dodgy Too
Boat make: Cyclone 21ft Twin
Engines: 2 x Mercury Offshore ??
Cruising area: Essex Buoy

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Essex Boy
Posts: 179
no rust

if this tank was in the mud with not much oxygen around then no real problem no oxydisation no rust dave
dodgy dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-04-2010, 10:12 PM   #9
Dan
On a roll
 
Dan's Avatar
 
Country: England
Location: Plymouth
Occupation: Anything in metal
Interests: Bristol Rovers, Cider & Boats
Boat name: Aqua Thunder, Badboy
Boat make: Bernico F2, Phantom 21
Engines: Merc 280efi, Merc 260efi
Cruising area: Worldwide

Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Plymouth
Posts: 2,189
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bad Boy 717 View Post
truely amazing

Its nearly as old as you mate
__________________
All hail to Jail Ale
Dan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-04-2010, 07:37 AM   #10
Registered User
 
larby's Avatar
 
Country: Guernsey
Occupation: Engineering
Boat make: None, boo!
Engines: Turbines mainly!
Cruising area: The inside of my workshop!

Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,644
Wow!!
__________________
facebook.com/jlinnovationgsy

Facebook.com/turbinebike

The true test of a man is how he treats someone of absolutely no use to him.
larby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-04-2010, 08:13 PM   #11
djb
Registered User
 
djb's Avatar
 
Country: uk
Location: blackpool
Interests: boats/sportsbikes
Boat make: fletcher gto
Engines: merc 200
Cruising area: wyre estuary

Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: blackpool
Posts: 114
I understand that when the Yanks left the UK they buried most of their kit, including jeeps & tanks, rather than take them home.
If this is true i don,t know why we never hear of any of their gear being dug up & restored
We went over to Normandy for the 50th aniversery of D Day. The yank veterans were there in force in restored shermans & jeeps in full uniform. It was a fantastic weekend & the french put on a great show but they had to ban the tanks from the villages because they were churning up the tarmac !.
djb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-04-2010, 09:37 PM   #12
Registered User
 
Bad Boy 717's Avatar
 
Country: UK
Location: Somerset
Occupation: old bloke
Interests: Water Ski Racing, Basic Racing
Boat name: Bad Boy 717, Hotshot 777
Boat make: Phantom 21, Phantom 21
Engines: JSRE Merc 2.5 EFIss 280hp, Merc 2.5 x 2
Cruising area: Weymouth, Weston and rest of UK

Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Somerset
Posts: 529
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan View Post
Its nearly as old as you mate
Thanks, and was thinking of letting you use the engine. . . .
Bad Boy 717 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-04-2010, 08:23 AM   #13
BananaShark Member
 
Cookee's Avatar
 
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's

Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Posts: 4,632
I was told there is a big very deep hole off the South Devon coast near us where a lot of US and British stuff has been dumped.
__________________
Cookee



British Champions! RIB Formula 1 2005
National Speed Record Holder at 90.15 (still)

www.bananasharkracing.com
Cookee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-04-2010, 09:25 AM   #14
Registered User
 
Location: Bournemouth

Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Bournemouth
Posts: 391
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cookee View Post
I was told there is a big very deep hole off the South Devon coast near us where a lot of US and British stuff has been dumped.
Is that France?
__________________
You can never go fast enough...
Mark Wildey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-04-2010, 12:20 PM   #15
BananaShark Member
 
Cookee's Avatar
 
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's

Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Posts: 4,632
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Wildey View Post
Is that France?
__________________
Cookee



British Champions! RIB Formula 1 2005
National Speed Record Holder at 90.15 (still)

www.bananasharkracing.com
Cookee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-04-2010, 02:01 PM   #16
Registered User
 
cfun's Avatar
 
Country: uk
Location: poole
Occupation: retail
Interests: sport and being lazy
Boat make: ring rib
Engines: merc xr2
Cruising area: bournemouth bay

Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: poole
Posts: 1,681
First off I thought the title of this thread ( Recovered after 62 years ) was regarding our illustrious leader and some Phantom Illness , but then I realised what a cracking story it is

Their were 5 tanks sunk of Studland Bay Poole and a plane crashed into the sand bar, think I've banged me bottom on them a few times in the past
__________________
i can na give her any more captain
cfun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-04-2010, 12:37 PM   #17
Dan
On a roll
 
Dan's Avatar
 
Country: England
Location: Plymouth
Occupation: Anything in metal
Interests: Bristol Rovers, Cider & Boats
Boat name: Aqua Thunder, Badboy
Boat make: Bernico F2, Phantom 21
Engines: Merc 280efi, Merc 260efi
Cruising area: Worldwide

Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Plymouth
Posts: 2,189
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bad Boy 717 View Post
Thanks, and was thinking of letting you use the engine. . . .

Ah, but Scott, you look so much better for your years my very good frined
you know it would make sense, I mean you wouldnt want it stood much longer would you
__________________
All hail to Jail Ale
Dan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-04-2010, 12:32 PM   #18
Registered User
 
Location: Bournemouth

Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Bournemouth
Posts: 391
Quote:
Originally Posted by cfun View Post

Their were 5 tanks sunk of Studland Bay Poole and a plane crashed into the sand bar, think I've banged me bottom on them a few times in the
Never dived on them myself but here
__________________

__________________
You can never go fast enough...
Mark Wildey is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT +1. The time now is 03:37 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
×