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07-09-2012, 05:41 PM
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Registered User
Country: thornton
Occupation: kitchen supplier and installer
Boat name: roofless
Boat make: phantom/talon 18's/scarab 21,Larson 254 cabrio
Engines: V8
Cruising area: wyre/morcambe bay
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 312
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Just it's bad form to swear online,you TOSSER!
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Is it ok to call somebody gay online you gay lord?
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07-09-2012, 07:06 PM
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Registered User
Country: Norway
Location: Porsgrunn
Occupation: Fire and entry guard in industry
Interests: Music, boating, photos, etc
Boat make: Marshan
Engines: Mercury 2.5 EFI
Cruising area: Porsgrunn-Brevik-Langesund
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Porsgrunn
Posts: 21
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Marshan wins
It must be a case of not knowing the british powerboat history from the 70s if you don't know about Marshan wins. The Marshans had many wins in the OCR classes with 85,90 and 115 hp outboards back in the 70s and 80s. Barrie Williams was one of several drivers, he had a very sucessful 16 Marshan winning several national championships with his Marshan 16 powered by a 115 hp Mercury. Several Marshan 18s had similar sucsess in the offshore class 3C with the biggest in-line 6 syl.Mercury 150 hp, before the Mercury V6 came, but also with the first Mercury 175 hp back in the mid 70s and early 80s. I believe the Marshan 21 Desperado boat was the best standard production boat in the 1985 World Championship for the offshore class 3C. Nowadays, class 3 has become a highly spesialized racingclass of cause with quite exotic boats with steps, air intake on the deck, cockpits and catamarans, so a classic style monohull like Marshan can't compete, but just like the Ring and Phantoms, Marshans have become a classic sportsboat from the 70s and 80s.
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08-09-2012, 07:37 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2011
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Originally Posted by naflemac
It must be a case of not knowing the british powerboat history from the 70s if you don't know about Marshan wins. The Marshans had many wins in the OCR classes with 85,90 and 115 hp outboards back in the 70s and 80s. Barrie Williams was one of several drivers, he had a very sucessful 16 Marshan winning several national championships with his Marshan 16 powered by a 115 hp Mercury. Several Marshan 18s had similar sucsess in the offshore class 3C with the biggest in-line 6 syl.Mercury 150 hp, before the Mercury V6 came, but also with the first Mercury 175 hp back in the mid 70s and early 80s. I believe the Marshan 21 Desperado boat was the best standard production boat in the 1985 World Championship for the offshore class 3C. Nowadays, class 3 has become a highly spesialized racingclass of cause with quite exotic boats with steps, air intake on the deck, cockpits and catamarans, so a classic style monohull like Marshan can't compete, but just like the Ring and Phantoms, Marshans have become a classic sportsboat from the 70s and 80s.
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Steps in hulls or vented Chines only give more lift so power units could be reduced giving a lighter rigged boats on craft of these sizes it didn't make much difference on the winged bat boats so many good race drivers have been spat out and injured when the wings dug in there is a lot to be said for marshan phantom and rings as many have gone back to them
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08-09-2012, 10:08 PM
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#64
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: HAYLING ISLAND
Occupation: POWER BOAT DRIVER
Interests: EXTREAM WATER
Boat name: HYPERACTIVE
Boat make: MARSHAN 21
Engines: MERC 2.5
Cruising area: SOLENT AND BEOND
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: HAYLING ISLAND
Posts: 35
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Originally Posted by russ williams
Steps in hulls or vented Chines only give more lift so power units could be reduced giving a lighter rigged boats on craft of these sizes it didn't make much difference on the winged bat boats so many good race drivers have been spat out and injured when the wings dug in there is a lot to be said for marshan phantom and rings as many have gone back to them
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So positive the Marshan is an icon along side the rings and phantom I've been lucky enough to have owned all three brands and each one has been a joy....I did the pwc thing for ten years!!! So glad we kept the last Marshan 21 HYPERACTIVE in the barn for those lost pwc years.... BRING ON THE OLD SKOOL......The Marshans have landed again!!!! Back to the future
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08-09-2012, 10:14 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: Guildford
Occupation: Charity Audit Partner, haysmacintyre
Interests: Anything with wheels or an engine
Boat make: GTX530, Marshan 21
Engines: 125 Opti/150 Pro XS
Cruising area: Solent
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Guildford
Posts: 78
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I hope so Russ. Looking around the show here in Cannes, some very nice pieces of kit but to the trained eye the finish on the boats is absolute rubbish. Am I'm an accountant!!!!!!! People only see cosmetics these days and that is part of the problem. Anyone can build a pretty boat, built like an air fix model.
There must still be money around though, a Boston whaler here with 3, yes 3, 300 verados on it!!!!!!!!!
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08-09-2012, 11:27 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: HAYLING ISLAND
Occupation: POWER BOAT DRIVER
Interests: EXTREAM WATER
Boat name: HYPERACTIVE
Boat make: MARSHAN 21
Engines: MERC 2.5
Cruising area: SOLENT AND BEOND
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: HAYLING ISLAND
Posts: 35
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Originally Posted by double scampi
I hope so Russ. Looking around the show here in Cannes, some very nice pieces of kit but to the trained eye the finish on the boats is absolute rubbish. Am I'm an accountant!!!!!!! People only see cosmetics these days and that is part of the problem. Anyone can build a pretty boat, built like an air fix model.
There must still be money around though, a Boston whaler here with 3, yes 3, 300 verados on it!!!!!!!!!
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Wasted on a whaler Lmfao
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09-09-2012, 09:43 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 174
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Originally Posted by double scampi
I hope so Russ. Looking around the show here in Cannes, some very nice pieces of kit but to the trained eye the finish on the boats is absolute rubbish. Am I'm an accountant!!!!!!! People only see cosmetics these days and that is part of the problem. Anyone can build a pretty boat, built like an air fix model.
There must still be money around though, a Boston whaler here with 3, yes 3, 300 verados on it!!!!!!!!!
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Good job thoses Boston whalers are unsinkable with that lot on the Aft end that's
Got to be some weight ,are the 300 verados supercharged if so the transom on that is going to have a hard life
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09-09-2012, 12:17 PM
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Registered User
Country: Guernsey Channel Isles
Location: West Coast
Occupation: Hotelier
Interests: Powerboat racing
Boat name: Vodkatini,Cap Camarat,Easy RiderSuper Rider & Hirrondelle
Boat make: Phantom 21,Jeaneau 925 Avenger19.Lorne Campbell Slipstream Tremlett 21.Tigershark 21
Engines: Volvo 5 litre,Merc 115 Tower,Twin 250 Suzukis and 145 Mercruiser LX
Cruising area: Channel Islands and French coast
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: West Coast
Posts: 611
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Just a thought but there is a possibility that a modern day version of the Marshan 18 with an HO 115 and an awesome driver could win the world 3G title,or is that nostalgia talking ?
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09-09-2012, 12:34 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: Guernsey
Occupation: Network Engineer
Boat make: Argo 21
Engines: 2.5 EFI
Cruising area: Channel Islands
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Guernsey
Posts: 426
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You might have to do it and find out Simon!!
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09-09-2012, 01:26 PM
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Registered User
Country: Guernsey Channel Isles
Location: West Coast
Occupation: Hotelier
Interests: Powerboat racing
Boat name: Vodkatini,Cap Camarat,Easy RiderSuper Rider & Hirrondelle
Boat make: Phantom 21,Jeaneau 925 Avenger19.Lorne Campbell Slipstream Tremlett 21.Tigershark 21
Engines: Volvo 5 litre,Merc 115 Tower,Twin 250 Suzukis and 145 Mercruiser LX
Cruising area: Channel Islands and French coast
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: West Coast
Posts: 611
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You might have to do it and find out Simon!!
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No Hugh it would have to be a former driver of the year !
Your old White 17 Ring would also do it especially if the competition were held in local waters hint hint !
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09-09-2012, 03:13 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 174
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Dutch
Just a thought but there is a possibility that a modern day version of the Marshan 18 with an HO 115 and an awesome driver could win the world 3G title,or is that nostalgia talking ?
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. That's a good question for Pete and Rich, it would be great to see the new marshan 21 racing again.
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09-09-2012, 05:14 PM
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#72
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: Guildford
Occupation: Charity Audit Partner, haysmacintyre
Interests: Anything with wheels or an engine
Boat make: GTX530, Marshan 21
Engines: 125 Opti/150 Pro XS
Cruising area: Solent
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Guildford
Posts: 78
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With a bit of luck the new marshan will be ready for the lymington challenge on
The 29th September. Driver Andy Hiscox and nav Glen Thompson. We obviously need time to test it when it gets back from Cannes but that's the intention. For now she is bobbing around with black magic in Cannes Harbour.
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09-09-2012, 06:55 PM
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#73
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Registered User
Location: Leicestershire
Occupation: Electrician
Interests: Pointy boats and ribs
Boat make: Rib
Engines: Mercury
Cruising area: south west
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Leicestershire
Posts: 113
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If possible it would be nice to see some photos
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09-09-2012, 07:12 PM
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Registered User
Country: Guernsey Channel Isles
Location: West Coast
Occupation: Hotelier
Interests: Powerboat racing
Boat name: Vodkatini,Cap Camarat,Easy RiderSuper Rider & Hirrondelle
Boat make: Phantom 21,Jeaneau 925 Avenger19.Lorne Campbell Slipstream Tremlett 21.Tigershark 21
Engines: Volvo 5 litre,Merc 115 Tower,Twin 250 Suzukis and 145 Mercruiser LX
Cruising area: Channel Islands and French coast
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: West Coast
Posts: 611
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Oh oh I forgot to mention one of the all time classic Marshan race boats
The unforgettable 18 foot Hot Chocolate
These boats also had on board electric fuel pumps- again ahead of their times.
On the 22 Nd of September we will be contesting the final championship weekend race in Guernsey if you fancy a pre shakedown,shakedown !
Could be. A great chafe to showcase the product to circa 20 race teams
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09-09-2012, 07:36 PM
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Registered User
Country: Guernsey Channel Isles
Location: West Coast
Occupation: Hotelier
Interests: Powerboat racing
Boat name: Vodkatini,Cap Camarat,Easy RiderSuper Rider & Hirrondelle
Boat make: Phantom 21,Jeaneau 925 Avenger19.Lorne Campbell Slipstream Tremlett 21.Tigershark 21
Engines: Volvo 5 litre,Merc 115 Tower,Twin 250 Suzukis and 145 Mercruiser LX
Cruising area: Channel Islands and French coast
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: West Coast
Posts: 611
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09-09-2012, 08:33 PM
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Registered User
Country: Netherlands
Location: Westcoast
Occupation: Farmer
Interests: Marshan Ring Phantom
Boat name: Blue Streak
Boat make: Marshan 18
Engines: Mercury V200 Mercury XR10
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Westcoast
Posts: 128
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Hot Chocolate 1974..
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10-09-2012, 09:25 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 174
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Quote:
Originally Posted by double scampi
With a bit of luck the new marshan will be ready for the lymington challenge on
The 29th September. Driver Andy Hiscox and nav Glen Thompson. We obviously need time to test it when it gets back from Cannes but that's the intention. For now she is bobbing around with black magic in Cannes Harbour.
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Rich can you put some pics of her bobbing around in Cannes then mate
Looks like we are back on the cider on the 29th then if I can get there
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10-09-2012, 04:35 PM
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#78
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: Guildford
Occupation: Charity Audit Partner, haysmacintyre
Interests: Anything with wheels or an engine
Boat make: GTX530, Marshan 21
Engines: 125 Opti/150 Pro XS
Cruising area: Solent
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Guildford
Posts: 78
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For some reason I can't post photos off my phone or iPad onto boatmad at the moment but I shall post them to our Facebook page.
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10-09-2012, 11:47 PM
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#79
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 83
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marshan 21 and voodoo gtx CANNES
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10-09-2012, 11:54 PM
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The Doc
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 8,283
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how well is the 21 going with the opti?
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