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29-11-2008, 10:14 PM
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Solid Mounts
When converting to solid mounts (Yam outboard) what is the prefered material ? Aluminium, Nylon or other ?
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29-11-2008, 10:26 PM
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Traveling
Country: UK
Location: Alderholt
Occupation: Aerospace
Boat name: T/T D2S
Boat make: Midas 27' Cat, Argo 16 Cat. Avon Rib Thingy
Engines: Merc 280-ROS -JSRE,65Xs, 75 Stinger, Yam 60
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Aluminium or other alloy IMHO
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30-11-2008, 09:41 AM
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Nylatron (if it can be spelt properly).
Sounds abit Thunderbirds, but it's self lubicating.
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30-11-2008, 12:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wayne Kerr
Nylatron (if it can be spelt properly).
Sounds abit Thunderbirds, but it's self lubicating.
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Thats the one  .... Was discussing with TD & others at playgroup the other week but nobody could remember what it was called  (too busy eating cakes)
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30-11-2008, 04:27 PM
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Location: Kent
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Nylatron GSM is what we've always made the solid mounts out of.
Its Nylon impregnated with Molybdenum disulphide grease MOS2 to make it self lubricating. Also used it to replace steering idler arm bushes on Volvo F and FL trucks with 4 wheel steering. Lasted a lot longer than the item supplied by MC Truck and Bus.
G.
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30-11-2008, 04:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Foolish
Thats the one
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30-11-2008, 06:59 PM
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Location: West Coast of Norway
Occupation: naval architect
Interests: surface piercing props, stepped hulls, air entrapment hulls
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Foolish
Thats the one .... Was discussing with TD & others at playgroup the other week but nobody could remember what it was called (too busy eating cakes) |
...so are you nearing race ready then?
I bought an engine yesterday, the one from B&O...thanks for the link.
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30-11-2008, 07:40 PM
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Country: UK
Location: Bournemouth
Occupation: Occupational Therapy Student
Interests: Boating, Clay Pigeon Shooting
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Boat make: Bakdraft!
Engines: Yamaha 90!
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Originally Posted by Scand
...so are you nearing race ready then?
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Dad (foolish) and I are doing pretty well ! . Hoping to be out testing the weekend after christmas?
So what boat is your new engine going on then .. planning to join 3B ?
Ashleigh
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01-12-2008, 01:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SplitPin
Nylatron GSM is what we've always made the solid mounts out of.
Its Nylon impregnated with Molybdenum disulphide grease MOS2 to make it self lubricating. Also used it to replace steering idler arm bushes on Volvo F and FL trucks with 4 wheel steering. Lasted a lot longer than the item supplied by MC Truck and Bus.
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In ' 86' - 87 I did 19 races with a wooden cat using bog standard Yam mounts.
6 wins, 3rd in the world championship, loads of 2nd placings!
In '92 I raced with Roy Smith in an ally hull, tried using solid mounts, but it shook everything to pieces.
'95 raced in an Argo Cat, and got Wilson's mech (the late Barry Clayton) to change the mounts "bog standard" after every race. 8 wins, runners up World Championship.
Since have driven an Argo at 83 mph using ally mounts.
It is not an easy one to call.
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01-12-2008, 12:31 PM
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Traveling
Country: UK
Location: Alderholt
Occupation: Aerospace
Boat name: T/T D2S
Boat make: Midas 27' Cat, Argo 16 Cat. Avon Rib Thingy
Engines: Merc 280-ROS -JSRE,65Xs, 75 Stinger, Yam 60
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wayne Kerr
Nylatron (if it can be spelt properly).
Sounds abit Thunderbirds, but it's self lubicating.
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Use this on the Guides for Aircraft flap tacks - Just not a fan as I've changed hundreds of the buggers over the years where they have broken. Slight side load or out of alignment & - crack
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03-12-2008, 03:24 PM
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Location: West Coast of Norway
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wishful thinking
Dad (foolish) and I are doing pretty well ! . Hoping to be out testing the weekend after christmas?
So what boat is your new engine going on then .. planning to join 3B ?
Ashleigh
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…was planning to Run in 3B with something like this:
…but I am running a bit behind schedule, as it took much longer to sell my other boat than what I had planned. There is also a slight complication of moving to Norway, hopefully get the boat built this spring/summer…and then do some races in Norway towards the end of the season if it is ready in time.
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03-12-2008, 08:32 PM
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Thats well sexy! Got anymore pics?
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03-12-2008, 09:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scand
…was planning to Run in 3B with something like this:
…but I am running a bit behind schedule, as it took much longer to sell my other boat than what I had planned. There is also a slight complication of moving to Norway, hopefully get the boat built this spring/summer…and then do some races in Norway towards the end of the season if it is ready in time. |
Now that does look nice,
gaZ
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03-12-2008, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by gazza
Now that does look nice,
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Doesn't it just. There aren't many new boats that look so striking!
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04-12-2008, 07:41 AM
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
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Is that a Rib?
Why do you need Nylatron for something that won't need lubricating?
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04-12-2008, 08:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cookee
Why do you need Nylatron for something that won't need lubricating?
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They are being machined from Aluminium 
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04-12-2008, 10:29 AM
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BananaShark Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Foolish
They are being machined from Aluminium |
Maybe I should have quoted Foolish and Spitpin for clarity - By the way I think aluminium and plain nylon are ideal - we (Well Kitten does) make the Yam ones for the guys down here for OCR
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04-12-2008, 03:02 PM
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Location: West Coast of Norway
Occupation: naval architect
Interests: surface piercing props, stepped hulls, air entrapment hulls
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Boat make: PetterTintorera
Engines: Yamaha 90
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Thanks for your compliments. The shape is derived to get the centre of aerodynamic pressure as close to CG possible without using wings like the bat boats, but using a modified rib tube. I tweaking deck moulding now and will post some pics of the final design.
Cookee: you have PM
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