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Old 11-02-2006, 09:43 PM   #1
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turning a boat upside down

ive got to turn motivation upside down soon to spray ,anyone ever done it without crane or winch??ideas(serious ones!!) please
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ive got to turn motivation upside down soon to spray ,anyone ever done it without crane or winch??ideas(serious ones!!) please
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few hefty blokes(mrrob sized!) and a load of old tyres
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Old 11-02-2006, 09:57 PM   #3
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Re: Re: turning a boat upside down

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gav
[B]few hefty blokes(mrrob sized!)
think in practical terms gav the workshop does,nt look that big
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got the tyres,gonna have trouble finding mr rob sized blokes!!
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Old 11-02-2006, 10:42 PM   #5
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fix a couple of eyes in the wall & block & tackle, once your at the balance point put in some stays and block it down from the other side.

If you know a good operator driver just rent a 2-3 ton digger and have him flip it over
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i was thinking alone those lines myself,got to be done outside though as worshops not big enough to turn over inside,will weigh it up tomorrow.
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got the tyres,gonna have trouble finding mr rob sized blokes!!
Theres only 1 MrRob

take it outside and flip it over and back on to its trolly. Your farmer there has a meaty handler that will lift it.
But as Gav once said to me, its not flipping it over thats the worry, its flipping it back without damaging the fresh paint.
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good idea,id hate to spray her and leave the hull,kinda like half the jod done
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A very handy gadget for this sort of thing is a Tirfor - they are a wire rope hoist NOT to be confused with the cheap Yank style cable pullers.

Firebrigade use them to lift lorries off cars etc. Also great for a 4x4 if you get stuck in the mud.

Beauty of them is they are so precise and you can raise or lower a fraction at a time.

They come in 3 sizes - 800 - 1600 and 3200kgs - this is safe lifting load - they will pull a hell of a lot more - seriously powerfull and so many uses.

Look on Ebay or free ads or similar.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/800kg-Wire-Rop...QQcmdZViewItem

I bought one off this bloke before on Ebay - 3200kgs model - a real beast. They are chinese copies but still tough as old boots - got a few genuine ones as well - even tougher but very expensive.
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cool,im gonna make a plate with a lifting eye,bolt it on where the engine goes and bribe the farmer to lift it with his tractor,
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Firebrigade use them to lift lorries off cars etc.....
Stop talking out yer arse... you need to lift a lorry upright of a car you call for a feckin' crane.... or you use air bags... in the years I manned the ET.. the only thing we ever..and I mean ever ....used the Tirfor for was pulling a feckin' cow out of a slurry tank...and stretching the odd car apart to get a stiff out when we couldn't be arsed to wait for the local wrecker..... still I suppose in "sheepsville" or wherever it is you reside... they might not have cottoned on to hydraulics'n pneumatics....
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Stop talking out yer arse... you need to lift a lorry upright of a car you call for a feckin' crane.... or you use air bags... in the years I manned the ET.. the only thing we ever..and I mean ever ....used the Tirfor for was pulling a feckin' cow out of a slurry tank...and stretching the odd car apart to get a stiff out when we couldn't be arsed to wait for the local wrecker..... still I suppose in "sheepsville" or wherever it is you reside... they might not have cottoned on to hydraulics'n pneumatics....
Nearly every fire brigade in the UK uses them - of course maybe you lot were just lazy.......
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Nearly every fire brigade in the UK uses them - of course maybe you lot were just lazy.......
Didn't say we didn't have 'em just that you don't use 'em for "lifting lorries"... so don't continue with your bollix....
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Didn't say we didn't have 'em just that you don't use 'em for "lifting lorries"... so don't continue with your bollix....
Just cos YOU didn't use them doesn't mean NOBODY uses them!!!

Obviously a crane is a better bet but they aren't always around when you need em....
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Just cos YOU didn't use them doesn't mean NOBODY uses them!!!

Obviously a crane is a better bet but they aren't always around when you need em....
You really do talk some bollix, don't you...?…. try sticking "air bags" into google and see what that throws up... and whilst you're at it... figure out where you're going to attach your handy "Tirfor" above the crash scene to “lift a lorry”….. you can use two Tirfors to right a small vehicle… by PULLING.... but if you're dealing with a lorry that you need to lift… you use bags, jacks or heavy lift equipment.. not a pissing Tirfor... stop giving your advice on what you know feck’ all about…. Other than Google information…go back to giving voice to your huge range of experience on RIBnet where, for some strange reason, they seem to tolerate it…..or you could try “Ribsters…...The friendly site”..
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Now now!

I do find it a bit hard to swallow that a cable winch thingy would be used to lift a 'Lorry' in any situation! imagine the insuing inquiry when it all went orrobly wrong....Oi gArf!!!!..what you been doing here??
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You really do talk some bollix, don't you...?…. try sticking "air bags" into google and see what that throws up... and whilst you're at it... figure out where you're going to attach your handy "Tirfor" above the crash scene to “lift a lorry”….. you can use two Tirfors to right a small vehicle… by PULLING.... but if you're dealing with a lorry that you need to lift… you use bags, jacks or heavy lift equipment.. not a pissing Tirfor... stop giving your advice on what you know feck’ all about…. Other than Google information…go back to giving voice to your huge range of experience on RIBnet where, for some strange reason, they seem to tolerate it…..or you could try “Ribsters…...The friendly site”..
Perhaps they tolerate it because they aren't all as obnoxious as you???

Are you seriously telling me that nobody - EVER - has lifted/moved a lorry with a Tirfor? Have you been present at EVERY recue around the world? Who are you - Thermoman or something?

I actually SAW an artic lorry cab moved/lifted off a car crushed under it with a Tirfor - it was only moved about 2 feet but it was just enough to get the girl out.

Whilst you are Googling for airbags why not type in tirfor and Rescue? I have used Tirfors hundreds of times and I am well aware of what they are capable of.

I made a simple statement that I really don't think justified this childish personal attack - so bogg off back to your cave......
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sorry need to stick up for jono here fire brigade may carry them but u always think of another way as its quicker
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sorry need to stick up for jono here fire brigade may carry them but u always think of another way as its quicker
They ARE very slow to use - and bloody hard work but they DO have they uses.

I will also admit that they aren't used very often for lifting/moving lorries but to launch such a scathing attack is a little extreme.
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