P1 British Grand Prix - Page 5

Adam · 30-08-2006, 10:11 AM

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Originally posted by Matt
I believe they have to implement it because P1 is "Pleasure Navigation" rather than a "Race" class. I understand it also attempts to control chequebook racing.

However, I think it'd be great to have the occasional "unlimited" race.

yes I believe it is to do with the pleasure navigation bit - but when I'm watching a 'race' I would like to think it is about going as fast as you can.

must be time for P1 to change their rules - afterall who can really say it is about navigation on those tiny laps? It is a race class and if they want to control speeds it needs to be done through the rules in my opinion.

verytricky · 30-08-2006, 10:17 AM

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Originally posted by Matt
I believe they have to implement it because P1 is "Pleasure Navigation" rather than a "Race" class. I understand it also attempts to control chequebook racing.

However, I think it'd be great to have the occasional "unlimited" race.

I heard the UIM would not approve a race class with no canopy that exceeded 90mph. And as the P1's dont have a canopy ( but have restraints and air! ) they are not allowed to exceed 90mph or they face the UIM binning them as a class.

Later on we'll have a race around 99% of the course, then the boats will line up 100 yards from the finish line with stop watches in their hands, then a sudden sprint to the line to see who get the timing exactly right....

Cookee · 30-08-2006, 10:38 AM

They actually give you the minimum time per lap for each class in the pre race briefing!

And you can blame P1 for adding classes! I think they want to make it pay - there was a rumour going around the pits at the weekend that they lose £ or $ 500,000 an event!

verytricky · 30-08-2006, 11:12 AM

Loose half a million an event?

Is that fancy accounting? Like forgetting to add in the advertising revenue because that is paid to a different company in their structure?

Adam · 30-08-2006, 11:25 AM

Can see that they could be loosing a lot of money - on the face of it ther must be a lot of out-goings and income must be limited.

What are the entry fee's out of interest?

littlenige · 30-08-2006, 11:25 AM

I agree with Adam. I know the arguements will prevail forever more about whether ´real´offshore racing exists and if it´s a truly viable proposition in this day and age. The P1 boats are such capable machines that I´m personally surprised how they don`t race on courses that are not necessarily geared towards the spectator. Races where Satnavs are banned (allowed in P1? - a bit out of touch having lived up a mountain without a phoneline for 3 years!) and the naviguesser has to actually tell the driver where to go would be a welcome return to real racing IMHO. At events such as Cowes there are smaller classes that can provide huge entertainment for the public by racing closer to shore on multiple laps. I take it that the PA system was keeping the folks ashore informed as to what was happening at various locations around the Solent? I loved it in the early days when reports would come through from Anvil Point with the latest positions..........

and who´d have thought Graham would possess such incredible photo´s of such old machinery (sorry old boy!)

Cookee · 30-08-2006, 12:15 PM

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Originally posted by Adam
Can see that they could be loosing a lot of money - on the face of it ther must be a lot of out-goings and income must be limited.

What are the entry fee's out of interest?

£1400+ for a wild card - discount available if entries for the full series are made before a certain date!

GPS are allowed in P1 and pretty much all watersports now - they are so small it would be hard to ban them effectively anyway!

There was a PA on Egypt point and a little way up the course but not all the way where there were spectators and there were a lot!

verytricky · 30-08-2006, 12:29 PM

You can fit a GPS onto a watch - banning GPS would require a cavity search!

Jon Holmes · 30-08-2006, 12:56 PM

Isnt it sad that people can not be trusted to comply with the rules?

Isnt it also sad that poeple who do bend the rules feel no shame about it?

What does that tell you about their Mothers?

Does honesty and integrity account for nothing these days?

Matt · 30-08-2006, 01:00 PM

87.7 fm. A Great job done by martin & the others.

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Originally posted by Cookee
There was a PA on Egypt point and a little way up the course but not all the way where there were spectators and there were a lot!

Jon Fuller · 30-08-2006, 01:01 PM

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Originally posted by Turnip1
Does honesty and integrity account for nothing these days?

It would seem not. But it's nowt new.

Jon Holmes · 30-08-2006, 01:20 PM

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Originally posted by Jon Fuller
It would seem not. But it's nowt new.

I appeciate its nothing new Jon, but its definately killing all sports in my opinion.

I was listening to a debate on the radio yesterday, where basically, referees of football matches cant be trusted anymore. Addidas along with some other bright spark are pioneering a football with a microchip in that can be tracked anywhere within the Stadium! Wow F&%$ing Doo!

I grew up understanding (and accepting) that the Referees word was final. (And based on what he did or didnt see).

Rules are rules, why cant everyone just accept it and enjoy the game?

Our whole existence is based on TRUST.

Perhaps too many people today are judging by their own standards?

verytricky · 30-08-2006, 01:23 PM

Trust costs money.

Jon Holmes · 30-08-2006, 01:26 PM

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Originally posted by verytricky
Trust costs money.

Thats THRUST you funny fecker.

ForTwo · 30-08-2006, 02:26 PM

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Originally posted by Adam
Can see that they could be loosing a lot of money - on the face of it ther must be a lot of out-goings and income must be limited.

What are the entry fee's out of interest?

10.000 euro's for Evolution class
hope to get it back with prize money in Portugal.
and a leftover for

Jon Holmes · 30-08-2006, 02:29 PM

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Originally posted by verytricky
Trust costs money.

Ooops,

Ive just realised my Faux Par.

Didnt mean to be unsympathetic Trickster.

Jon Fuller · 30-08-2006, 02:31 PM

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Originally posted by littlenige
Gonna have to pull my finger out and get time off to come over next year. Would anyone be willing to get me afloat for some photo's??

You'd be welcome to come out with me, assuming I'm there.

Jon Fuller · 31-08-2006, 08:49 AM

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Originally posted by Mikey
This is for John ... spectacular Chaudron stuff!

The impact ripped their helmets off forcing them to stop. Great series of pictures on the P1 website

Superb pictures indeed from the P1 site!

Looking at this pic, which is the frame before the stuff, could it be the deep discussion in the cockpit, lack of 'attention', and dissregard for the on-coming water that increased the chances of getting it wrong as they did?

Am I right in thinking that miniture Malteser is steering '&' throttling (by hand)?

Bugger that! one hand on the wheel!

He needs to ditch some of his macho malteseness, and give her the wheel, or throttles, or get a foot throttle.

KINPACIFIST · 31-08-2006, 09:35 AM

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Originally posted by Jon Fuller
Superb pictures indeed from the P1 site!

Looking at this pic, which is the frame before the stuff, could it be the deep discussion in the cockpit, lack of 'attention', and dissregard for the on-coming water that increased the chances of getting it wrong as they did?

Am I right in thinking that miniture Malteser is steering '&' throttling (by hand)?

Bugger that! one hand on the wheel!

He needs to ditch some of his macho malteseness, and give her the wheel, or throttles, or get a foot throttle.

At last we agree on something.....amen!!!

Matt · 31-08-2006, 09:51 AM

In that shot, it looks like he's not holding the steering wheel?